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    Quote Originally Posted by Draginhikari View Post
    I kind of saw the whole 'Become the Warrior of Darkness' coming for quite awhile. Though, I don't think it was really that hard to guess given what we've been told previously during past events. Personally, I image the likely scenario is that solution is likely do with mastering both of the powers or Light and Darkness in order to find a solution. Of course the course question is "What does it mean to be a Warrior of Darkness?" Primarily the status of Warrior of Light seems to come down to the fact that we wield the six crystals of light which represents each of the primary elements in the games lore. Is it a situation like in Final Fantasy 4 where there are equivalent crystals of Darkness or is it something else entirely? Is it a situation that requires a change of mindset or approach? Do we abandon the Crystals of Light that we already have or does something else happen to them? There are definitely far more questions then their are answers.
    The WoL so far has been avoiding to use the Echo in a specific way. Namely the power to influence the soul (which allows for possession). This is a power that is attributed to the dark. Maybe becoming the WoD means we finally get to use this part of the Echo as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    It all depends on what you, personally, have been fighting for and to whom you owe your allegiance. Personally, I don't have a problem with taking up the side of darkness as long as it's to save people. "Warrior of Light" is just a title, and my allegiance is ultimately to my own sense of right and wrong, not Hydaelyn.
    That's the line of thinking that bothers me, though. It seems far too simple if keeping cosmic balance is a simple matter of saying "today there's too much light so I'm wearing my black spiky armour and wielding my dark powers instead of my light ones".



    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Q. After possessing a mortal, can an Ascian leave that mortal voluntarily? Or must they be forced out through death (or alternative methods like the Blade of Light).

    A. Yes, they can leave voluntarily, and this and a bunch of other Ascian revelations will be prominent in the next expansion. (Also, dev answer was "Why not both?" leading me to believe they didn't really understand the question.)
    I don't think "why not both?" was the dev answer, that's just Koji throwing in memes. (He even said something about the slides not making much sense to anyone who read them without actually listening to the presentation.)

    He used the same meme when replying to my topic about the AST timeline.



    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Q. Is Aphinaud actually half Lalafell? (Included: a half dozen pictures comparing Alphinaud to Lalafell and young and grown Elezen.)

    A. HAHAHAHAHAHA! (It was noted, they did not say, "no".)
    If we really are headed for The Future, maybe we're going to see adult Alphinaud then?

    Also that slide really needed a whole lot of red string lines and post-it notes on top of the pictures.



    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    It's my personal prediction that this dungeon is in THE FUTURE. In the next patch, the voice that's been stealing away the Scions' consciousnesses will succeed in doing the same for the WoL, and will take us to the Bad Future represented by the Gimlet Dark. We'll then run the dungeon, and be returned to our body in the past, having witnessed first-hand the horrors we need to prevent.

    That's just a guess, however!
    While I do think a timeskip is likely, I don't think the Ghimlyt Dark is part of it. Everything else suggests the "bad future" involves an excess of light, so the dark battlefield doesn't seem to fit with that.

    It seems more likely to me that it's the tipping point at which the bad future happens.

    Unless of course (why not both?) the Ghimlyt Dark is a vision of "Twin Doom A" and by preventing it we cause "Twin Doom B".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's the line of thinking that bothers me, though. It seems far too simple if keeping cosmic balance is a simple matter of saying "today there's too much light so I'm wearing my black spiky armour and wielding my dark powers instead of my light ones".
    Isn't that what the Warriors of Darkness did, though? They still had their crystals and blessings of light. Light and Darkness in and of themselves have no will or command of the alignment and mental state of those who interact with them, they're more like the aetheric result of wide scale change.

    Hydaelyn and Zodiark aren't so much the will of Light and Darkness as much as they are entities who happened to be aligned to those aetheric signals. Zodiark's problem wasn't Darkness but covetousness and consumption, and Ascians aren't spreaders of Darkness but Chaos to thin the veil between Reflections/Shards and cause Rejoining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I'm inclined to think otherwise because the JP directly references waiting for a "bearer of a crystal of light", which is not so uncommon that Zodiark would have had to wait 10,000 years for one. (Unless he's referring to the upgrade Middy gave us.)
    Well... I suppose the lack of antiquated linguistics is a decent tell that the voice might not be Zodiark; Hydaelyn only speaks using more modern language when using Minfilia as a sock puppet, so Zodiark speaking "normally" wouldn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    So... we're basically back to square one, able to do little more than shrug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I'll admit I have since jumped from F/GO to GBF, since the content release timing got waaaay slow on the JP servers. Gilgamesh is "objectively" better than Scatahch because of Enuma Elish, but the latter gets more use from me because single target Quick is BS if you play it right, and good for farming gears. They both get powercreeped pretty bad by later Servants, so you probably shouldn't go ham. Scathach even manages to powercreep herself.



    (PM system where?)
    I know all 'bout 'dat mobage power creep; of the starting lineup in FEH only one unit (Hector) is still good, and he's upstaged by his limited-availability Valentines' and Legendary variants. I mean, any unit can be good given the proper build, but cf. vanilla Hector to the soon-to-be released Surtr... even with Distant Counter there's no contest.

    Ahem. I will take your advice to heart and save my SQ for a good Rider (Drake or Ozymandias?) or Musashi (to replace the good but not stellar Mordred), since I already have a decent Archer (Tristan) and a good budget Lancer (Leonidas). I'm currently stuck in Rome, steamrolling everything because I ground a bunch of levels... not sure how far the NA server is right now, so I'll just sit tight.

    I really shouldn't be starting mobage conversations on a board intended for the lore...


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's the line of thinking that bothers me, though. It seems far too simple if keeping cosmic balance is a simple matter of saying "today there's too much light so I'm wearing my black spiky armour and wielding my dark powers instead of my light ones".
    Well, a big problem I have with the whole "balance" shtick is that we still haven't seen any indication that it's tipping too far one way or the other (on the Source, our own world). Yes the Burn is a good illustration of what an aether-bleached (Light-flooded) world will end up like and yes we've been told time and again that primals drain the land's aether... but other than the unresolved aether readings from before Wilred was killed and the deaspected crystals Y'shtola found mirroring those from before the Calamity, we have no evidence anything strange is going on.

    There are simply too many unknowns to figure out much at the moment (which was the intent).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcwen View Post
    The WoL so far has been avoiding to use the Echo in a specific way. Namely the power to influence the soul (which allows for possession). This is a power that is attributed to the dark. Maybe becoming the WoD means we finally get to use this part of the Echo as well.
    I'd question if our character would be willing to make use of that particular power or even if they could. So far, the Warrior of Light has absolutely no control over when the Echo seems to want to activate, it just kind of does. The only thing the Warrior of Light in game has been shown to do is basically creating a shield of block tempering attempts by Primals. Everything else about the Echo seems extremely passive or not able to be controlled like the Ascians can.
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