Blue Mage is karma for Red Mage

[ScarecrowJames]

I really don't get this complaining about Blue Mage. It's not even released yet >.< Give it a chance, people =/

Gonna love killing monsters in the open world again. Been doing it since 2.0 (1.0 too honestly) Never has it got boring. The monster provide a incredible challenge as well as they do so in Eureka..

Sorry I am being very sarcastic here. Eureka wasn't something we've never seen before and Blu won't be any different. Its just restricted. Want to do more of Eureka? Better have done the prior Eurekas where you get to kill easy monsters all over again. Want to do Blu? Sure but you better get preformed parties.

Eureka has been billed as Casual content where people who weren't into savage has something to work on. Never once has it been really difficult. Just grindy.
The majority of Blu won't be any different from Eureka.

[ScarecrowJames]

Yeah let's wait until January to voice concerns! Then let's wait until 5.0 to voice our concerns! Then let's wait until 5.1! 5.2! 5.3! ...6.0! Don't worry guys, SE has never made a mistake and they always make needed adjustments super duper quickly. I mean, look at how fast Dark Knights and Machinists got their much-needed overhauls for Stormblood! Why, it only took... until Shadowbringers launch? Maybe?

I know, people often forget what was 1.0. If people didn't complain we wouldn't have this game. Shame complaints are considered as negative attention.

[dragonseth07]

I know, people often forget what was 1.0. If people didn't complain we wouldn't have this game. Shame complaints are considered as negative attention.

Complaints are great. They inform design. But complaining about something we don't even have yet seems premature.

[Rita1989]

Gonna love killing monsters in the open world again. Been doing it since 2.0 (1.0 too honestly) Never has it got boring. The monster provide a incredible challenge as well as they do so in Eureka..
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We are not playing the same game are we because over world enemy's in this game provide no challenge at all.

FFXI I would agree with you but in FF14 you can kill over world enemy's with no trouble even if they are higher level then you

[ScarecrowJames]

Complaints are great. They inform design. But complaining about something we don't even have yet seems premature.

It would be different if they said Bluemage is confirmed and didn't give us any info.

Here the only things we don't know for certain is what abilities can be learned and what does the carnival fully entail.
We know what is Blumage and how it functions and what it can and cannot do. We just don't know Numbers or how "op" the job is or its rotation. No one is complaining about the jobs rotation sucking like people have with other jobs before fully trying out said job. The issue is the concept of the job and how it will function when and not playing with people.

[ScarecrowJames]

We are not playing the same game are we because over world enemy's in this game provide no challenge at all.

FFXI I would agree with you but in FF14 you can kill over world enemy's with no trouble even if they are higher level then you

Sorry I was being incredibly sarcastic.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Complaints are great. They inform design. But complaining about something we don't even have yet seems premature.

It's criticizing the concept, which is bad no matter how they handle it. Plenty of people wanted to main BLU and now get to see it relegated to a sideshow. Those people don't necessarily need to play BLU to express their disappointment. Others simply don't like the idea as a whole.

Saying you need to play it before judging is like saying don't criticize SB's initial iteration of WHM. While yes, testing it out will help, you can and should still give feedback.

[Fredco191]

I didn’t complain. I actually like Red Mage. I guess since I never played 11 I didn’t have an expectation.

[Vasch]

Complaints are great. They inform design. But complaining about something we don't even have yet seems premature.

Agreed. Constructive complaints are great. Be specific about which aspects you don't like. Offer possible solutions, if you have ideas. Have a conversation.

"This sucks and I don't like it blah blah give me what I want" is not a complaint. It's whining. It does literally nothing but spread negativity and bring people down. I don't think anyone here has an issue with complaints. We have an issue with whining.

It's criticizing the concept, which is bad no matter how they handle it. Plenty of people wanted to main BLU and now get to see it relegated to a sideshow. Those people don't necessarily need to play BLU to express their disappointment. Others simply don't like the idea as a whole.

Saying you need to play it before judging is like saying don't criticize SB's initial iteration of WHM. While yes, testing it out will help, you can and should still give feedback.

Prime example of a constructive criticism. This an actual complaint that has a point to it. Some people wanted to main BLU and don't see a way they can based on the rollout, and that merits discussion and feedback. We have an actual instance of "this is how it negatively affects players" instead of just "I don't like it."

[ScarecrowJames]

Never played Blumage in XI but I have played Gau and Strago in FFIII(yes I am that old and aware there is FFVI). Strago is the blumage, Gau while isn't learns abilities roughly the same. As well in FFVII, everyone who has Enemy Skill Materia is basically a Blumage.
I like every job in XIV. Some more than others. Yeah some have issues or had issues that makes me like them less than others but Blumage to me was a new job I get to play with my friends and randoms who could also be new friends from dungeons and raids.
instead that won't be the case here.