MSQ teleports - A simple band-aid for discouragement of new players in ARR

[TheMightyMollusk]

I'd be fine with some of those trips back to the Waking Sands just becoming cutscenes. Especially the ones that just have you turn around and go right back where you came from anyway. I can literally run from Horizon to Vesper Bay with my eyes closed.

[Edax]

I'd be fine with some of those trips back to the Waking Sands just becoming cutscenes. Especially the ones that just have you turn around and go right back where you came from anyway. I can literally run from Horizon to Vesper Bay with my eyes closed.

Seriously, just install a mini-aetheryte in the Waking Sands. Their cheap and already part of the lore. My house has one, why not this organization that slays freakin' GODS?

[bass9020]

Seriously, just install a mini-aetheryte in the Waking Sands. Their cheap and already part of the lore. My house has one, why not this organization that slays freakin' GODS?

Its in the lore why there arent aetherytes set in place there. Teledji Adeledji even placed a Statue of himself where a normal aetheryte would be.

And side note: If you take the boat from LL you arrive right at Vespar Bay.

[Edax]

Its in the lore why there arent aetherytes set in place there. Teledji Adeledji even placed a Statue of himself where a normal aetheryte would be.

And side note: If you take the boat from LL you arrive right at Vespar Bay.

No there is not lore as to why there aren't any mini-aetherytes in the Waking Sands. Yes, they talk about why the Syndicate hasn't placed a big one in Vesper Bay, but they don't need a big one in Vesper Bay. The mini-aetheryte can be gotten cheap on the Marketboard.

And more to the point, do they really need alienate new players with the frustrating lack of fast travel back into the MSQ quest hub?

[bass9020]

No there is not lore as to why there aren't any mini-aetherytes in the Waking Sands. Yes, they talk about why the Syndicate hasn't placed a big one in Vesper Bay, but they don't need a big one in Vesper Bay. The mini-aetheryte can be gotten cheap on the Marketboard.

And more to the point, do they really need alienate new players with the frustrating lack of fast travel back into the MSQ quest hub?

Waking Sands is part of Vesper Bay so yes it still counts as lore reasoning. And no I see no issue with players either traveling on foot to Waking Sands or as I said taking the ferry from Limsa. You and many others are so worried about new players for what reason? Its a game, a RPG. Traveling is a big part of that especially early on. But be my guest keep spouting about new players this and new players that.

[Penthea]

No there is not lore as to why there aren't any mini-aetherytes in the Waking Sands. Yes, they talk about why the Syndicate hasn't placed a big one in Vesper Bay, but they don't need a big one in Vesper Bay. The mini-aetheryte can be gotten cheap on the Marketboard.

Please tell us how many towns you have come across that have functioning mini aetherytes and no big ones and no connection to big ones. You'll find the answer is exactly zero. Even the housing district mini aetherytes are connected to the network of the corresponding city's main aetheryte.

You don't know your aetheryte lore.

Also a fast way to get to Vesper Bay is: Limsa > Arcanist's Guild > Take boat directly to Vesper Bay. You don't have to ride from Horizon.

And more to the point, do they really need alienate new players with the frustrating lack of fast travel back into the MSQ quest hub?

I started playing proper in HW and I honestly didn't find the travelling tiresome. But I come from games in which teleportation has very long cooldowns, the list of venues to teleport to was tiny, and teleportation was mostly for classes of far higher level than new players. I honestly felt spoiled when I first started playing this game. Getting around is so fast and easy.

[Edax]

Please tell us how many towns you have come across that have functioning mini aetherytes and no big ones and no connection to big ones. You'll find the answer is exactly zero. Even the housing district mini aetherytes are connected to the network of the corresponding city's main aetheryte.

You don't know your aetheryte lore.

Also a fast way to get to Vesper Bay is: Limsa > Arcanist's Guild > Take boat directly to Vesper Bay. You don't have to ride from Horizon.

Doesn't mean it's in the lore that mini-Aetheryte need a big one. I direct you to the wiki: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aetheryte which does not mention that Aetheryte shards require being connected to a big one. Your own head-canon doesn't count.

Also a fast way to get to Vesper Bay is: Limsa > Arcanist's Guild > Take boat directly to Vesper Bay. You don't have to ride from Horizon.

And even you have to recognize how convoluted that is to reach the Main Story Quest Hub. I've already mentioned the ferry so explaining this to me was completely unnecessary.

[Penthea]

Doesn't mean it's in the lore that mini-Aetheryte need a big one. I direct you to the wiki: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aetheryte which does not mention that Aetheryte shards require being connected to a big one. Your own head-canon doesn't count.

But you don't use your head and think why are mini-aetherytes never completely on their own? Why are they always connected to a big one? The game may not explicitly say it, but the intention is clear.

And even you have to recognize how convoluted that is to reach the Main Story Quest Hub. I've already mentioned the ferry so explaining this to me was completely unnecessary.

No my issue was never getting to the Waking Sands. My issue mostly lies in how the quests could be condensed for better storytelling, as there was a lot of needless "go talk to this person, this person, then this person" sometimes even in the same area. That's quite silly. Some of them play like single quests broken into several pieces.

[Enkidoh]

Its in the lore why there arent aetherytes set in place there. Teledji Adeledji even placed a Statue of himself where a normal aetheryte would be.

And side note: If you take the boat from LL you arrive right at Vespar Bay.

It wasn't Teledji that did that but Lolorito - look at the statue closely, there is no mistaking the turban/mask. But yeah, that's the lore reason why there is no aetheryte at Vesper Bay (not that there was ever one there even in 1.0) - it was a deliberate snub against the Scions because Minfilia refused to take bribes from Lolorito and the Syndicate, this is why they packed up and moved to Revenant's Toll (away from the Syndicate's influence), so instead Lolorito had that ostenatious statue of himself erected there, effectively placing his own ego over the good of the realm. This was explained back in 2.1's story.

I make a point of throwing rotten eggs at that statue every time I pass through Vesper Bay accordingly (in emote ).

[bass9020]

It wasn't Teledji that did that but Lolorito - look at the statue closely, there is no mistaking the turban/mask. But yeah, that's the lore reason why there is no aetheryte at Vesper Bay (not that there was ever one there even in 1.0) - it was a deliberate snub against the Scions because Minfilia refused to take bribes from Lolorito and the Syndicate, this is why they packed up and moved to Revenant's Toll (away from the Syndicate's influence), so instead Lolorito had that ostenatious statue of himself erected there, effectively placing his own ego over the good of the realm. This was explained back in 2.1's story.

I make a point of throwing rotten eggs at that statue every time I pass through Vesper Bay accordingly (in emote ).

Thank you for correcting me, and explaining it with more detail!