Female outfits

[Barraind]

Telling female character players "shush the non-xiv FF male glams look fine on you anyway, be happy" is literally telling us we should be happy to settle for less. The Zidane outfit looking good on my character doesn't change the fact that there is such little representation of the non-xiv female characters.

I don't want to dress up like Zidane. I want to dress up like the female characters I love, but there's only two non-xiv female glams and most players only have access to one because the other was from a paid fanfest ticket. Meanwhile there is quite a lot of non-xiv male glams.

I grew up being forced to play mostly male characters in the games I played. Now I'm playing a female character and being told I should be happy to wear boy's clothes just because they fit nicely. Why can't I be a girl who gets to wear clothes designed for girls? I don't want to dress up like Squall. I want to dress up like Rinoa or Selphie.

And as an aside I think gender locked clothes is terrible. Let everyone wear what they want.

The major problem with those as vet rewards is that a variation of "shirt, jacket, pants, shoes, gloves" is pretty unisex, where flowy green dress, taylor swif... Rinoa's dress + boots, long peach dress and a few variations on bare middrift + booty shorts isnt.

The male glams from vet rewards have all been shirt/jacket, shoes, gloves, pants" and the one female character with maybe adaptable glam is... already in on the mog store.

[Penthea]

The major problem with those as vet rewards is that a variation of "shirt, jacket, pants, shoes, gloves" is pretty unisex, where flowy green dress, taylor swif... Rinoa's dress + boots, long peach dress and a few variations on bare middrift + booty shorts isnt.

The male glams from vet rewards have all been shirt/jacket, shoes, gloves, pants" and the one female character with maybe adaptable glam is... already in on the mog store.

You are reaching. The Yuna outfit has no leg slot. The chest and legs are rolled into one chest piece so isn't "an adaptable" glam, so that rules out that argument. The jacket and pants argument is weak...how much gear have we got in the game that is flowy and has cut outs revealing skin usable by both genders? A lot.

unisex

The problem with unisex is it usually means a male thing that society thinks is okay for females to use. Rarely the reverse. A lot of female character players aren't happy with merely men's clothes that look alright. Again; I don't want to dress up as Zidane, I want to dress up as Garnet.

Anyway that argument is flawed as well given that there is a large amount of gender locked gear obtainable in-game and from the mog-station. One of those outfits on the mog station is from a non-xiv character. SE have done it once, they can do it again.

I'm starting to think your argument boils down to "but I don't think male characters would look good in those clothes" and/or "SE won't let male characters wear them". Sorry but those are not good enough reasons to force us into mostly male clothes if we want to dress up as a non-xiv FF character.

[Beckett]

I'm starting to think your argument boils down to "but I don't think male characters would look good in those clothes" and/or "SE won't let male characters wear them". Sorry but those are not good enough reasons to force us into mostly male clothes if we want to dress up as a non-xiv FF character.

I think the actual issue is that the devs have little incentive to make both a male and female outfit when most players will be satisfied with just the male one. Add onto that that whenever they do add male-only outfits, a ton of female characters say, "We want to wear that too!" and the devs get the impression that it's much more effective to just make male-based gear that everyone can wear.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I agree with this mindset. In my ideal world we'd be getting Fran's outfit along with Balthier's, Garnet's outfit along with Zidane's etc, and both genders would be able to wear all of them (and nothing would ever be added to Mog Station again). Unfortunately, given the history of this game, I'm not holding out hope for it.

[Penthea]

I think the actual issue is that the devs have little incentive to make both a male and female outfit when most players will be satisfied with just the male one.

The devs have created a freaking huge amount of gender locked cosmetic gear obtainable in-game and in the mog station. We even had some more added recently, and we'll get even more in the future. It just so happens that only two out of the lot are of non-xiv female characters. This claim that the devs don't have incentive to create female outfits is simply false...because why would they consistently create them if they didn't? There are even gender locked hairstyles with some of those outfits.

Also a gigantic amount of characters are female, I'd wager more than half are. It's in SE's interest to give them more things to wear that are made for them and not just hand-me-down sets of men's clothes when it comes to non-xiv FF characters, because frankly they could make a lot of money from it. I have been wearing my Yuna outfit a lot recently on two characters and I have gotten pms asking me where I got it, and each of these people were disappointed to find out it's no longer obtainable. Some of them may have bought it if the option was still there.

Add onto that that whenever they do add male-only outfits, a ton of female characters say, "We want to wear that too!" and the devs get the impression that it's much more effective to just make male-based gear that everyone can wear.

If SE can redesign male clothes to be usable by female characters, then surely they can do the reverse. We have male bunny outfits now, and very few FF character outfits can boast being more stereotypically feminine than that, or more sexualised than that. The bunny outfit is literally one step away from letting males wear bikinis. So if SE can do that, why can't we get something much more modest like Rinoa's outfit?

[Beckett]

The devs have created a freaking huge amount of gender locked cosmetic gear obtainable in-game and in the mog station. We even had some more added recently, and we'll get even more in the future. It just so happens that only two out of the lot are of non-xiv female characters. This claim that the devs don't have incentive to create female outfits is simply false...because why would they consistently create them if they didn't? There are even gender locked hairstyles with some of those outfits.

I was looking at it from the point of in-game items, because why anyone would ever want something added to mog station instead of in-game is beyond me. Of course the devs have incentive to create female gear for the mog station, because they see direct profit from that.

If SE can redesign male clothes to be usable by female characters, then surely they can do the reverse.

100% agree. I think gender locking any gear makes no sense, and only limits the options we have available.