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    Talshara_Blade's Avatar
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    Talshara Blade
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    This is an MMORPG , if you want to skip everything they worked hard to create, you better be ready to pay extra for it.
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    Less Reality makes for better Fantasy!
    Support adding "6 Fulms Under" to gpose!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/376127-Request-for-gpose%21-Sinking%21

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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talshara_Blade View Post
    This is an MMORPG , if you want to skip everything they worked hard to create, you better be ready to pay extra for it.
    Don't see how your statement is relevant.

    In fact, because it's an MMORPG, it'd be wise to remove unnecessary gates to content which people can do together.
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  3. #13
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    Turnipsi Tonapi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    This is starting now because there's still time to implement a default free skip MSQ option up to the start of 5.0 for new players. Maybe with recap cutsences or something so that everyone has a general gist of the story.This makes even more sense now if "New Game +" is implemented.
    Even if they gave out free skips, would it really be all the way to 5.0? That'd be one movie to give the idea of story and characters... I could see ARR skip or free trial extension as some kind of thing, but straight up to 70 isn't that likely and will make further story fairly meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnipsi View Post
    Even if they gave out free skips, would it really be all the way to 5.0? That'd be one movie to give the idea of story and characters... I could see ARR skip or free trial extension as some kind of thing, but straight up to 70 isn't that likely and will make further story fairly meaningless.
    The story is not relevant for many players. Maybe some parts of it are interesting. These players here are for end-game raiding,crafting,socializing in the new areas,taking screenshots etc.Heck, the fact that paid skip potions exists indicate that SE is aware of this segment of players and they are significant enough to cater a product for them.

    And every time something is like this is brought up, people defend the MSQ saying that XIV is a FF/story-driven game first.

    Sure, that's all fine and dandy but are we really going to call the MSQ as it currently is, conducive to an MMORPG experience?

    For the most part, it's a solo experience and you use the lobby finder/duty roulette to clear duties and trials.Then get back to your solo MSQ experience.

    "Story-immersion" is another reason often brought up but when you have things like, a character, who has not even completed ARR's MSQ being able to teleport into Shirogane or using 2 person mounts to fly friends to SB aetherytes they are not technically supposed to be at, aren't those "story-immersion" breaking?
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 11-19-2018 at 04:14 PM.

  5. #15
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    ARR MSQ sucks and a long tedious grind to get to HW which is better but not great.
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  6. #16
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    Edax Royeaux
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    All that MSQ AAR filler should be made optional. Period.
    Making a mandatory MSQ quest where we run around the world so that Tataru Taru could make tea was a ridiculous idea in the first place.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    All that MSQ AAR filler should be made optional. Period.
    Making a mandatory MSQ quest where we run around the world so that Tataru Taru could make tea was a ridiculous idea in the first place.
    The devs and others will say it's too much effort/time/money to change existing MSQ/code since it's interwoven with so many other parts of the game. I'm inclined to agree.

    So my hope is that new players will get a free skip MSQ option to the start of 5.0 with a recap movie to fill them in on the general gist of the story.

    Also with 6.0, moving away from this concept of the MSQ gating everything, including non-combat content.
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  8. #18
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Why are you so concerned about new players? We go through this every expansion and never once have had a problem. Let a new player decide what they want or dont want. The game is still going and hasnt shut down, even getting 2 new DC's, I think we are ok.
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  9. #19
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    So maybe, I've missed it with all the news about 4.5 and 5.0 but has SE addressed what are they going to do about the MSQ regarding skip potions?

    Because if new players, have to go through hundreds of quests just to get into 5.0 areas and content, I can foresee a lot of them just quitting way before they even finish ARR. ARR alone has 285 MSQ quests.

    Some of these are soul-crushingly tedious and I say this as someone who enjoys story.
    Why would people want to skip most of the game? The only soul-crushingly tedious part is the gear grind at level cap.
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  10. #20
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    When you buy a game, you want to play the full story and content you get.

    If you want to catch up to friends, you either start now playing or buy the jump potions.
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