How would you feel about PvPvE?

[DinnerBlaster]

If you ever played Aion back when it was good (1.5), you probably ran Dredgion. This is one of the most fun instances I have ever played in an MMO. Example video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecJR9t2hPk

tl;dw: you and the opposing team (or race for Aion) would start on the south-side of a ship, one SW, one SE. You would work your way to the captain of the ship on the bridge, and pvp on the way, along with pve. When the captain was killed, the instance was over and the killing team got points, but whoever had the most points overall would win. So even if you killed the captain you could still lose.

Along the way there would be objectives and mini bosses for extra points. If you were good enough you could even lock out the opposing team.


How would the community feel about something similar to this being added to the game? PvP isn't a huge focus for FFXIV, but something like this would seriously revitalize the PvP scene in my opinion.


Thoughts?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Anything that can be won even remotely by avoiding the pvp aspect (see Shatter) is bound to attract the wrong crowd if you ask me.

[Moomba33]

I don't care for PVP so I'm unlikely to touch it outside of my usual Wolf Mark grinding when SE adds stuff I want to the PVP vendor.
However I am not against content like this being added for those that like PVP.

[SekkerOfTrust]

I think whit the news of us bein Warriors of dark in 5.0 SE may go that way on 6.0, maybe u will need to choose to be WoL or WoD and do stuff like u mention to balance to light/dark sides.

[LeoLupinos]

Dredgion is still the most fun thing in Aion, at least for me.
The most recent update did some changes. Now some mini bosses does drop upgrade items, allowing for different strategies. If you want the upgrade items, your group can rush and kill the mini bosses asap and forget about the score, but if your team want the Win reward there's the classic strategy.

It could work with FFXIV. Reward for win could be Tomes and some special reward to upgrade PVP stats/actions, while the minibosses drop some material item for materia, maybe a new system that needs a certain amount of that material to unlock the materia slots, or even additional slots that only add stats towards PVP zones.

What really lacks in FFXIV is competitiveness. In Aion we do PvE to improve faster in PvP, I like this idea. In the end of the day, what's the big deal of getting the BiS? I fail to find any value in it if it'll be trashed in the next patch, or even only being used to do the same thing you are already doing. I would like to do PVP to get something for my PvE, and vice versa. Now they are mostly separate things. Craft could have so much potential with PVP too. So little progression for PVP...

[Vespar]

Thoughts?

As long as PvP stays within specified PvP only areas, Im fine with it. I absolutely loathe PvP otherwise. I want to enjoy mytime in the overworld areas, not worrying about being ganked by some jerk wanting to get his jollies off.
PvP No thank you! You can have your cake, but keep it in the bakery so to speak...

[Awful]

It wouldn't work XIV doesn't do open world nor is there any opposing faction like they had in Aion (Elyos vs Asmodian) the reason the Abyss was a thing because there was the 3rd faction that the two fought while fighting against each other which you felt in the open world. The only way XIV could do this would be GCs but that'd be way too chaotic and imbalanced which is why the whole Elyos/Asmodian influence really crushed servers that had higher influence with higher tax and content gating while not having certain areas captured.

Not to mention PvP is so dumbed down in SB you wouldn't have half your kit so you can't adapt how you would in other MMOs such as WoW, GW2, BnS etc, large scale battles with sieges would probably crash the servers too with the NPCs + players added in like Aion does too. It just wouldn't work which is a shame since PvP is so dead in this game as another factor with the games server ticks and delays just not making a smooth experience as a whole which is why XIV PvP is regulated on such a small scale.

I'm down for open world PvP but it has to be done right, engaging while having rewards that don't gate people out of content where if 1 side loses they lose 2 boss encounters and making the world much less manageable, for example in Aion the dominant faction would have less tax, more boss fights and better rewards in PvP, where if you were on a losing side you get none of that and twiddle your thumbs.

[KisaiTenshi]

Open World PvP of any sort needs to stay out of FFXIV.

[DinnerBlaster]

Open World PvP of any sort needs to stay out of FFXIV.

not advocating for open world pvp. brought it up on the old beta forums and it got shot down pretty quickly.

this would be an instanced only area. 2 teams of 8. doesn't have to be of opposing GC either.


But I think FFXIV really does need PvPvE

[DeaconMoore]

Hmm, well if it was something like old school Alterac Valley in WoW I'd give it a try. Can't say I'm a fan of PvP in FFXIV though. I only dabble at it occasionally here. It just doesn't really feel right no matter what class I play. LoL and other games soothe the PvP itch for me better.