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    Yea already in this thread people have posted they are against PvP. If it's a duty/instanced area I really don't see an issue.

    My dream is to have an area that is open world PvP, but I'm not even pushing for that because of the fallout that would cause with the PvE only community
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinnerBlaster View Post
    My dream is to have an area that is open world PvP, but I'm not even pushing for that because of the fallout that would cause with the PvE only community
    I really don't get why people are so aggressively against open world PvP. It can be opt-in just like many other features. This game has everything is stuck in its own separate box to not shake the main game. Hunts are open world, opt-in and give both cosmetic and useful rewards (mount speed boosts, xp, materia, tomes). PvP could be like that, and the same goes for other types of content.
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    A competitive PVE which does not involve pvp could be interesting. like 2 teams race to complete some kind of dungeon.
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    I played Aion and the open-world PvP is what made me quit once I was out of the areas where you could zone to the non-PvP area. (can't remember the name right now) People were just major JERKS. Ganking people simply trying to quest or get to a dungeon instance or even just gather. As long as they don't tie really neat rewards to it (looking at YOU pvp hairstyle) and keep it to its own instance, then go for it. I just won't have any part in it, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amariel34 View Post
    As long as they don't tie really neat rewards to it (looking at YOU pvp hairstyle) and keep it to its own instance, then go for it. I just won't have any part in it, thank you.
    But why shouldn't PvP have any neat rewards? Almost everything else in this game has exclusive neat rewards. Why should the PvP community miss out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    But why shouldn't PvP have any neat rewards? Almost everything else in this game has exclusive neat rewards. Why should the PvP community miss out?
    PVP can have neat rewards; but tying universal rewards to it when the very vast majority of the playerbase dislike PvP to different extents to try and convince them to come play it for the couple hours it'll take to get it and then never touch it again is not the way to go about it. You quickly build negative associations with such tactics.

    Hairstyles are an almost universal reward that the vast majority are going to desire; you're simply inviting complaints and annoyance on the vast majority of the playerbase by using them for the sole purpose to get people to play content they'd never touch in its current iteration. While I dislike the acquisition of them; the Feast has great PvP themed rewards that the game should exercise more often outside of the feast rankings themselves. Hell, I'd play PvP a ton more if it were possible to obtain some of the old feast rewards.

    Beyond that, it barely makes thematic sense to me. You've got an entire section of the game built around the concept of battle and defeating your fellow player, and something you can buy is a hairstyle? PvP rewards should scream battle. Weapons, armors, war/battle themed mounts; minions like the cheerleader even make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    While I dislike the acquisition of them; the Feast has great PvP themed rewards that the game should exercise more often outside of the feast rankings themselves. Hell, I'd play PvP a ton more if it were possible to obtain some of the old feast rewards.

    Beyond that, it barely makes thematic sense to me. You've got an entire section of the game built around the concept of battle and defeating your fellow player, and something you can buy is a hairstyle? PvP rewards should scream battle. Weapons, armors, war/battle themed mounts; minions like the cheerleader even make sense.
    If old rewards were made available again, I'd live in the Wolves Den.

    I agree though, PVP needs more battle-themed goodies for glamour. The hellhound weapons look great but most people who want them have them by now. And the PVP minions that you can buy with wolf marks are so...weird. Like, here's a cheerleader and a.... lantern. What?

    What would be awesome is to have things like a raven minion (a nod to Rival Wings). We already have a falcon, just reskin it to be black. Or a wolf mount without the flames. A personal version of the cruise chaser...etc. etc.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
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    "... and mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    PVP can have neat rewards; but tying universal rewards to it when the very vast majority of the playerbase dislike PvP to different extents to try and convince them to come play it for the couple hours it'll take to get it and then never touch it again is not the way to go about it. You quickly build negative associations with such tactics.

    Hairstyles are an almost universal reward that the vast majority are going to desire; you're simply inviting complaints and annoyance on the vast majority of the playerbase by using them for the sole purpose to get people to play content they'd never touch in its current iteration. While I dislike the acquisition of them; the Feast has great PvP themed rewards that the game should exercise more often outside of the feast rankings themselves. Hell, I'd play PvP a ton more if it were possible to obtain some of the old feast rewards.

    Beyond that, it barely makes thematic sense to me. You've got an entire section of the game built around the concept of battle and defeating your fellow player, and something you can buy is a hairstyle? PvP rewards should scream battle. Weapons, armors, war/battle themed mounts; minions like the cheerleader even make sense.
    Not everything needs rewards. This could be a "just for fun" instance that awards tomestones and nothing else

    Rewards are cool, but it shouldn't force those who don't want to PvP to miss out. I'd be completely fine with not getting anything unique for this kind of instance. I really am just wishing for more PvP content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amariel34 View Post
    As long as they don't tie really neat rewards to it (looking at YOU pvp hairstyle) and keep it to its own instance, then go for it. I just won't have any part in it, thank you.
    At least the hairstyle can be bought with wolf marks which are easy to get. I do think that they should allow PVP goods (hairstyle, mount and such) to be sold on the marketboard, like they did the Dodo, Night Pegasus and Eldthurs horn. That way people who enjoy those modes can play them, and make a bit of gil besides.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - OK! ✅ to armor
    "... and mounts?

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    IMO keep pvp out of pve content. I don't like PVP and hate having to run it to get emotes, hairstyles, and some of the better looking gear.
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