#NerfBRD

[Dualgunner]

It does when you aren't nerfing BRD to a point people wouldn't take it. In fact, BLM is a perfect example of this. Its damage is monstrous, and it's essentially considered equal to SMN yet its popularity didn't move much this tier. Why? It's never been a popular job at any stage due to its gameplay.

And yet, Black Mages no longer feel like an absolute detriment to their party--which is the point of buffs and nerfs.

MCH falls in the same category. A 5% nerf to BRD tomorrow isn't going to put much of a dent in any statistic because a huge issue with MCH is its gameplay.

But Machinists won't feel like as much of a detriment to their party--are we seeing a theme yet?--and feel more comfortable within their own job in the static.

I don't disagree with BRD getting brought down a little—never have this entire time—just with the notion MCH's popularity will suddenly jump start over it when at no point in two expansions has MCH ever been popular.

Just because it's not going to be a binary "MCH is now the prettiest girl in school" doesn't mean nothing should be done about the rock and a hard place it's in.

You just said lots of people dislike SMN yet its currently fourth place amongst the DPS because of meta. Why didn't this apply to MCH? During Deltascape it was widely better than all the Casters yet still the least played job.

You'll have to forgive me, but evidence to this claim? I never looked at the upload numbers for Delta when it was active, however I still have to hold a healthy amount of skepticism. I know during Sigma it became true, but during Sigma is when Summoner took over.

Once again, my point hasn't been damage related but this idea MCH will suddenly become popular when it's never occurred before.

You're honestly kind of all over the place without a clear point. MCH's popularity is a symptom of it being a badly designed job, but BRD's overpopularity is a symptom of a lot of things, ranging from its simplified design, compatibility with every group type, be that giving everyone else buffs, or everyone else's buffs meaning so much more for Bard because of how its crit scaling and burst works.

I never said BRD couldn't be nerfed. Don't put words in my mouth.

I never said that you did. Don't put words in my mouth. That is, however, the general argument against this thread's proposal, so you'll have to forgive me addressing it in the grander scheme of things.

I said, for the third time, it won't abruptly make MCH popular with its current gameplay. I only tagged into this discussion on that premise.

The rising tide floats all boats. Bard dropping from 21% of all DPS uploads means everybody else's participation rates rise, including Machinist.

Regardless, the issue with BRD is how it scales, which will not be touched until 5.0. Hence why I said earlier they aren't going to just slap a 5% nerf on BRD for six months then readjust everything all over again six months later.

They've done weirder for balance before.