A new Patch but no Machinist adjustments.

[giwaman]

Make flametrower work eventho your moving
Buff hypercharge into 10% instead of 6%
Buff WF into 11 seconds instead of 10 seconds.
Lower the recast timer of dismantle, palisade, tp, mp regenation.
Enable peloton use during combat.
Buff ammo dmg.

[Kabooa]

Lower the recast timer of dismantle, palisade, tp, mp regenation

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Lower the recast timer of dismantle, palisade, tp, mp regenation.

Uh... you do realize three of those skills also belong to BRD, who is far and wide superior to MCH, yes? You've helped the wrong job here. :v

[HyoMinPark]

Lower the recast timer of dismantle, palisade, tp, mp regenation.

Uh... you do realize three of those skills also belong to BRD, who is far and wide superior to MCH, yes? You've helped the wrong job here. :v

Not to mention the possibility of taking a caster is completely out now. 2 free extra tank cooldowns for physical busters that would be available for virtually every buster in addition to Refresh with a shorter recast? Makes Mana Shift even more laughable in comparison. At least the healers would be happy in this situation.

[Caitlyn]

SE doesnt even care about the community since... well... the end of Heavensward I guess. Why should SE even care for the tiny amount of main MCH, when they dont even listen to players when it comes to Eureka, PvP or other dying content?

[Jollyy5]

Or it could be that they do care about the community, but just not the western one...

[giwaman]

Uh... you do realize three of those skills also belong to BRD, who is far and wide superior to MCH, yes? You've helped the wrong job here. :v

yah but those are just support skills xD

[giwaman]

Well its a pretty neat idea xD makemetagreatagain!!!

[Bourne_Endeavor]

yah but those are just support skills xD

Yeah... and it's almost like support skills are what dominates the meta sense. Refresh allows for more Foe usage and higher healer DPS, thus more damage. If you had any understand of job balance, you would know this.

[HyoMinPark]

yah but those are just support skills xD

Yah, and you kill the casters by giving both BRD and MCH shorter Refresh timers. You buff the raid even more with more Foe Requiem usage, and with less MP problems for the healers, allowing for more DPS. Refresh has a refresh potency of 6,000 MP each time it’s used. Shortening that means MP would be as big of an issue as TP is, and Foe’s 3% adds up over time.

Shortening the cooldown on Tactician would be meaningless for MCH; it would greatly benefit BRD though, who needs its enmity dumped far more often because it doesn’t have a turret to split it with. TP is a non-issue for most jobs after a death now that all melee and both physical ranged have Invigorate, and WAR can refresh its own TP with Deliverance Equilibrium if it has to. PLD and DRK would be the only ones it would benefit... but then, melee can just bring Goad for them because “lol 10 role action slots”. Shortening the cooldown on Palisade means that both BRD/MCH can alternate them for physical busters or even just physical auto attacks, making healing a tank even more of a joke and allowing healers to DPS more. Shortening the cooldown on Dismantle (which is already really short) holds the same.


The META is dominated by raid buffs. You giving a support skill like Refresh a shorter recast time—a skill that is already overpowered compared to the alternative (Mana Shift)—just fuels the raid buffs that made the physical meta meta for so long.

If they’re “just support skills xD”, why are you including them in your proposed buffs? They don’t buff just MCH—they also buff the contribution BRD gives a party, and the party itself.
(Which, by the way, a 10% Hypercharge would be a 30 second Trick Attack every 2 minutes. I don’t want to hear anything about BRD being the OP job if this ever came to pass.)