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  1. #51
    Player
    Darkpaw's Avatar
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    Akio Foxx
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    bumping to keep it up top but keep the convo going make your own calls for the creative team to answer us.
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  2. #52
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    Lystaria Luciano
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Just another bump to keep this at the top.

    Still want an answer from SE about MCHs state.
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  3. #53
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    Winter Gem
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I was actually shocked when I realized the Trait that gave you all the cool visual effects for Heated Slug, Split, and Clean shot didn't come with any upgrade to how Wild Fire works. You would think with all the specialized tech we could get Wildfire to trigger automatically when OverHeat Starts if it's available. And why doesn't Clean Shot Upgrade Split Shot when Ammunition is used. Would that really be so tertible?
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  4. #54
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    Donna Shanao
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    Summoner Lv 70
    You know what?
    Just buff hypercharge to 10% instead of 6%
    Buff wildfire to 11 seconds instead of 10 seconds
    Enable movements eventho your using flamethrower.
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  5. #55
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    You know what?
    Just buff hypercharge to 10% instead of 6%
    lol nice joke
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  6. #56
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    Raul Prower
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    I really want to like MCH, but it's way too feast or famine, and even then the feast is a can of beans.

    I played on NA servers until recently and MCH at max level was pretty much unplayable at 150-190ms latency, couldn't even pull off a budget rotation.

    I strongly feel that when you reach 100 heat, you will get 5-6 Overheated Shots without affecting oGCDs instead of getting a 10s timer to pump out as many skills as your connection allows, which would put low and high latency players closer to the same level.

    Also voting on Rapid Fire removal, it's a cool skill on paper, but not so much in practice even if you did live in the server room.
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  7. #57
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    Just buff hypercharge to 10% instead of 6%
    This doesn't make MCH competitive against BRD, it makes it better than all the Casters. Now we're back to the HW/Deltascape meta.
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  8. #58
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    Buff wildfire to 11 seconds instead of 10 seconds
    I don’t see an issue with this. I think something will still need to be done about those with higher latency though.

    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    Enable movements eventho your using flamethrower.
    I don’t see an issue with this either. But I think there are other concerns regarding Overheating that this won’t fix, and will have to be looked at separately.

    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    Just buff hypercharge to 10% instead of 5%*
    Fixed that for you, and congratulations: you just killed the casters.
    Let the double physical ranged meta reign once more.
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  9. #59
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This doesn't make MCH competitive against BRD, it makes it better than all the Casters. Now we're back to the HW/Deltascape meta.
    Return limit break rules to 2m/1c/1r, or MCH is never going to compete with BRD and always going to compete with the casters.

    That's the problem with BRD vs MCH: their inherent support and mobility gives them huge advantages over casters no matter what, so they're rarely going to fight each other and more often than not going to just boot casters out.
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  10. #60
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Return limit break rules to 2m/1c/1r, or MCH is never going to compete with BRD and always going to compete with the casters.

    That's the problem with BRD vs MCH: their inherent support and mobility gives them huge advantages over casters no matter what, so they're rarely going to fight each other and more often than not going to just boot casters out.
    Not necessarily. MCH doesn't compete with BRD now because it offers nothing BRD either doesn't do better or easier. Even if MCH were buffed into the moon or BRD nerfed hard, a significant factor in MCH's lack of play comes from how unfriendly the job feels overall. It's similar to the complaints WARs had at the beginning of Stormblood. They had to work twice as hard to achieve the same results as DRK and PLD.

    Regardless, forcing a Caster into the comp is simply lazy design and does nothing for MCH.
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