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  1. #51
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    For folks talking about SE using tempting rewards to "force" players into unpopular content...

    Seriously, listen to yourselves. ALL content should have unique and interesting rewards. Just because there's a piece of content that you don't care for personally that happens to have a reward you want, does not mean that content should be an exception. Any piece of content SE adds to a game, they expect and want to be successful. They aren't going to add content and say, "Almost no one will like this, so let's make the rewards so bland that even the few folks who DO like it will question why they even bother!"

    Eureka and PvP DO have enthusiasts, and those enthusiasts are as entitled to cool and unique rewards as enthusiasts of other content are.
    If the Relic wasn’t in Eureka, the amount of people participating in it would probably be less than the amount of players with Ultimate clears. Locking the Relic and dyeable AF gear wasn’t enough to save it from the disaster Pagos wrought upon it, so now Pyros has more than just the Relic tossed into it to tempt players to chase the carrot—every item added in 4.45 that was a minion, a mount, a housing item, or any sort of glamour item, was all thrown into Eureka: even the new hairstyle. Likewise, new hairstyles are now locked behind Wolf Marks and PvP instead of being given to the playerbase like they used to be when patches dropped.

    There is a difference between putting in a few exclusive rewards in a piece of content (a la Savage or Ultimate or Ex primals), and putting literally every new vanity item behind it (a la Pyros). I don’t think you realize the difference.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 11-08-2018 at 09:19 AM. Reason: I quoted the wrong person. I’m dumb.

  2. #52
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Bumping because a freaking hairstyle (basic customization item) shouldn't be gated by 3 levels of RNG nor millions of gil. It should be accessible to everyone. Strike 2, first one was the HoH one.
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  3. #53
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Bumping because a freaking hairstyle (basic customization item) shouldn't be gated by 3 levels of RNG nor millions of gil. It should be accessible to everyone. Strike 2, first one was the HoH one.
    At least with HoH you could immediately start farming for the hair. If you gave up at Pagos or Anemos, you then have to get through them in order to even START trying to farm the hair.
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  4. #54
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    Sheriyana's Avatar
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    Namissa Minami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Bumping because a freaking hairstyle (basic customization item) shouldn't be gated by 3 levels of RNG nor millions of gil. It should be accessible to everyone. Strike 2, first one was the HoH one.
    The first time they did it was with PotD, though I hated the practice even then to be fair.
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  5. #55
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    Sor-aki Muppe
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    For folks talking about SE using tempting rewards to "force" players into unpopular content...

    Seriously, listen to yourselves. ALL content should have unique and interesting rewards. Just because there's a piece of content that you don't care for personally that happens to have a reward you want, does not mean that content should be an exception. Any piece of content SE adds to a game, they expect and want to be successful. They aren't going to add content and say, "Almost no one will like this, so let's make the rewards so bland that even the few folks who DO like it will question why they even bother!"

    Eureka and PvP DO have enthusiasts, and those enthusiasts are as entitled to cool and unique rewards as enthusiasts of other content are.
    I do not like what they did here, I really do not. However I would rather use the word lure then force, the devs are trying to lure more players into content that many do not want to do. Locking housing, glam, pets, and mounts behind such things are already in itself a sign that the dev knows the content is less then good. Locking a hairstyle behind it shows to me that the devs know the content is what many players find bad and as such need an extra large carrot.
    IMHO, hairstyles should always be unlocked for everyone at the day they are added to the game, there should be no wall to climb to get them.

    Raids have better gear, mount, and pet as rewards.

    PvP should have pvp gear, mount, and pet as rewards. PvP need some love here. But more then that it needs more modes.

    Eureka have the relic, glam, housing, materia and so on as rewards, there are plenty of rewards for those who like that place. Just that the main reward, the relic, has been outdated at the day of being added for the entire SB expansion.
    Adding more and bigger carrots are not the answer here, making the damn content more fun is. Quality over carrots, if something is fun to do you do not need a big fat reward to even consider doing it.
    And by the way I bought the hairstyle from the MB, and it ate up a large portion of my saved gil but it was worth it to not have to do content I find boring.
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  6. #56
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    They're basically using tactics I'd expect in a free-to-play game with Eureka with the carrot on stick BS.

    This really shouldn't be a thing in a game you pay monthly to play.
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  7. #57
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    Chandani Aranka
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    Odin
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    After hearing Blizzard has said theyve taken most of their experienced developers and put them all into mobile game projects, I really hope this isnt why we see F2P Mobile game type mechanics in Eureka :/
    When people heard that, it seems that the ActivisionBlizzard stock price has fallen about 20% total since last weekend.
    And with hearing XVs cancelation of its DLCs and team has been move to other games, I pray it isnt mobile games.
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