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  1. #17871
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    He give you any reason as to why he thought you were a bad tank?
    No, he was most likely defending his healer friend when I asked them "Why I wasn't getting any heals?". The healer was standing idle, looking at me as my HP was slowly getting depleted. Even when I pulled less next time, idle... a cure I from time to time. No DPS at all.

    What he said didn't offend me at all, I was impressed by the nerve of saying such thing after his healer friend didn't do anything related to their job.

    I wasn't even direspectful, what I typed there is exactly what I said. I wanted to know what happened and got silence in return and this insult on his end. I didn't feel like report them either, so... closed game, anime time. I feel bad for the tank replacement they may have gotten after that.
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 11-07-2018 at 03:38 AM.

  2. #17872
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    No, he was most likely defending his healer friend when I asked them "Why I wasn't getting any heals?". The healer was standing idle, looking at me as my HP was slowly getting depleted. Even when I pulled less next time, idle... a cure I from time to time. No DPS at all.

    What he said didn't offend me at all, I was impressed by the nerve of saying such thing after his healer friend didn't do anything related to their job.

    I wasn't even direspectful, what I typed there is exactly what I said. I wanted to know what happened and got silence in return and this insult on his end. I didn't feel like report them either, so... closed game, anime time. I feel bad for the tank replacement they may have gotten after that.
    That actually almost sounds like they were dual-clienting or doing some serious Netflix and chill.
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    Last edited by Cincierta; 11-07-2018 at 04:26 AM. Reason: spelling

  3. #17873
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    That actually almost sounds like they were dual-clienting or doing some serious Netflix and chill.
    I remember I had a case like that before in 3.0. The guy was adamant about the fact that he "wasn't", but it was fairly obvious. They were pretty much taking turns for actions and one was in auto-follow.
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  4. #17874
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    Driskus's Avatar
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    It's been a 50/50 shot since 4.4 of getting tanks who are i385 and higher pulling expert dungeons one...pack...at...a...time...

    It's not due to bad heals, the healers are usually dpsing nearly the entire time, but when there are 2 aoe dps, you are sufficiently geared and you are pulling 1 pack at a time...
    I've noticed this on runs I do as a healer too. I can understand if its their first run that they're pulling slower, but when they've done the place before and still go ultra-slow it feels like such a slog. If I go as WHM, its always a slow tank, and if I go on WAR, its a zero-DPS, pre-pull Regen healer and/or DPS who don't know what Diversion & Lucid are. I've gotten to where I just wait the couple minutes on the tank queue (because Aether DC is weird like that most days) vs healing most times because at least then I know it'll be wall-to-wall pulls, even if its hell to grab everything because of the healer.

    Its the same with the older dungeons like Swallow's Compass & Hells' Lid too. There's a massive difference when I go as WHM and end up with a slow tank vs. going as WAR and pulling everything. The older uncapped dungeons especially need pretty much zero healing outside of a couple pulls or tankbusters. I can't count the number of Regens I've cancelled in recent times just to keep the healer from insta-pulling everything.
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    Last edited by Driskus; 11-07-2018 at 10:05 AM.

  5. #17875
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    So I did Pagos today (because I enjoy being tortured) and found myself as the party leader for a train group (we tried to do other things and even the high level bunny FATE, which gives decent and frequent exp by the way. 100k for failing and 200k for clearing at level 30 and it respawns pretty quick. Better than 500k every 30-60+ minutes). Group was making its way to Brothers and because Pagos is a layered monstrosity, people fell to the wrong ledge.

    A healer and myself were trying to figure out ways to get the tank in our group on the wrong ledge to ours. What we eventually wound up doing was grabbing a Haunt, then the tank would buff the healer/provoke mob and then hope it would climb up to them and then kill 'em. It didn't, but the healer had another idea. Rescue! Tank was pulled from their ledge and down into the abyss (dying because they had hate), but I was still able to Raise them back up (after carefully positioning myself so I could actually Raise them to the ledge and not fall down myself). Brothers didn't spawn for another 10+ minutes after, but hey. We saved someone a lot of time/stress.
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  6. #17876
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    Kuukyo's Avatar
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    Horu Miyoshi
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    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Ran a couple of expert dungeons to grab some gears for my sub classes. Before starting the run, I kindly asked people if I could get gears for tanks and ninja and some people agreed, others stayed silent. Later on the silent ones greed all tanks, aiming and scouting gears, when themselves having iLvl 370 or above.

    sighs
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  7. #17877
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    xkazh's Avatar
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    Khaz Corvinus
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuukyo View Post
    Ran a couple of expert dungeons to grab some gears for my sub classes. Before starting the run, I kindly asked people if I could get gears for tanks and ninja and some people agreed, others stayed silent. Later on the silent ones greed all tanks, aiming and scouting gears, when themselves having iLvl 370 or above.

    sighs
    Whilst it's annoying to loose a roll, they're still in their right to do so. They didn't even say yes.

    For mine: I got Shinryu the other day for trial roulette. Nothing bad happened, but it still feels weird seeing how quickly he dies since there isn't ilvl sync there. Still catches newbies with first tidal wave but the two in my group picked it up fine after that.
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  8. #17878
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    DevonEllwood's Avatar
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    Devon Ellwood
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    It's been a 50/50 shot since 4.4 of getting tanks who are i385 and higher pulling expert dungeons one...pack...at...a...time...

    It's not due to bad heals, the healers are usually dpsing nearly the entire time, but when there are 2 aoe dps, you are sufficiently geared and you are pulling 1 pack at a time...
    Recently had someone like this in a level 70 dungeon. My friend I went in with made a joke about how the paladin didn't seem to like tanking, which upset him enough to leave. Before leaving he made a comment about not liking pulling more mobs, so he's had people question him about it enough before. There's being careful and pulling small, and then there's purposefully not taking mobs to a gate so both can be aoed down. The replacement tank showed up halfway us killing Zenos and he just sat outside cheering us on. The replacement tank got a free clear and the mount drop too. I try to be the good conscience but sometimes my friend fires off those comments before I can stop him. I would still rather have a tank that pulls slowly and holds agro than a drunk one who moves erratically and can't find their stance.
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    Last edited by DevonEllwood; 11-08-2018 at 12:44 AM.

  9. #17879
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    TruebladeNuke's Avatar
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    Felicia Meracle
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 80
    It’s been quite some time since I last had a reason to use this thread.

    Yesterday for weeklies reset, one of my runs in Alphascape 3.0 had a questionable moment. I sign up as a PLD and get Alphascape 3.0. I zoned in, the barrier didn’t drop right away. After a bit, it became obvious that the WHM is a newcomer to the fight. (Complete with the message flash) The battle starts and, for the most part, goes pretty well. The WHM dies a few deaths to the Larboarding and Starboarding and once to something else. (Not too surprising. That part confused me on my first attempt too) This made me feel a bit sorry for the SCH, who was mostly solo healing at this point. (And was doing a VERY good job of it)

    I also noted that a DPS had died a few times as well. But I didn’t think much about that... until near the end of the battle where the said DPS suddenly chimes in with this quote:

    “I hope these healers never set foot in savage. They’re so terrible.”

    That triggered me and I feel I should have said something, but I didn’t at the time. In fact, no one did. Not even the amazing SCH, who never died once BTW and kept more then half the party alive in the battle. That SCH kept me going through those Mustard Bombs and the WHM has the excuse of being new to the fight, but was obviously trying to survive while figuring out how the battle works. (I was getting Cures, Regens, and WHM shielding as needed, when the WHM was alive anyway)

    But that DPS dude goes and calls them both bad anyway. Someone clearly needs to grow up and learn how to dodge Omega’s pew pew lasers. The good news out of this is that just a few more runs later, I got my Armored War Lion mount. (Yay!) Guess I’ll work on DRK’s next, since I already have a little over 100 runs already recorded on my DRK on the achievement list.

    While I’m here, this is now an old post to be responding to, but I’m going to anyway...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    *Snip*

    T_T
    I felt all 3 of my Tank jobs cringe at once reading that. What sort of Tank goes and stands in every AoE possible, then blames everyone else!?

    /soothe
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  10. #17880
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    Riyven's Avatar
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    Riyven Ly
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 26
    Guys, guys, one little question here:

    Do u know the new tendency of random AST to not buff the pty and use the cards only for them or just use "draw" but doing anything with the card?

    O______O <--- my face these days doing roulettes
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