Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[HyoMinPark]

I can offer a perspective of another MDPS: I do things like that all the time, because I have zero trust (backed up by personal experience) in my fellow party members from DF. The uptime lost generally doesn't matter at all in normal mode, and trying to do stuff the "optimal" rather than the "safe" way - and expecting others to do so as well - is asking for a quick death.

The thing is, why follow someone with an AOE already running towards the edge? When I’m well away from you and you choose to follow me to the edge anyways, I can’t help you at that point. I’m not even talking about optimizing—if you don’t have to disengage, don’t. And he didn’t have to.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I can offer a perspective of another MDPS: I do things like that all the time, because I have zero trust (backed up by personal experience) in my fellow party members from DF. The uptime lost generally doesn't matter at all in normal mode, and trying to do stuff the "optimal" rather than the "safe" way - and expecting others to do so as well - is asking for a quick death.

It's less about uptime and more practicality. Without vocal communication, it simply makes more sense range will move out further being, well, range. Sure, you'll get people who are utterly clueless but you're far more likely to get scenarios where you overlap... like what HyoMin described.

[Leadleaf]

The conversation reminds me of every time I see "meteor" aoes in 24man I never get one first as melees would be claiming them all as I was finishing my cast.

[Frizze]

Expert roulette just now - St Mociannes(hard). Group was PAL, WHM, SAM, and me on BLM. First red flag, im pulling more agro then normal even though its just my bog-standard AoE rotation on packs of trash. No matter. Run any stragglers back to their pack and continue AoE as normal. Second red flag, tank dies on... i think the first pull after the first boss. I didnt see how it happened(slow healing? no CDs?), just that i suddenly had aggro on 5 mobs. No worries, pop mana shield(watched close to 2 dozen auto attacks get negated - love BLM tank) dodge mob AoEs and continue normal rotation as the healer gets the tank back up and he slowly tries to take back agro. Tank spends the last half of the run doing odd pulls(half pulls with weird stops) and complaining that we wont finish before the reset(and he read his clock wrong, reset was over an hour away at this point) - yet still manages to die to another trash pull. Then as icing on the cake he messes up mud mechanics on final boss and almost wipes us. Just a thought - if youre worried that we arent going fast enough, maybe skip the weird stops and do full pulls. And if your deaths were your own fault(the healer keeping me up while ressing you on two occasions being circumstantial evidence that it probly wasnt him - though i suppose a dead tank would wake up a napping healer at least a little), using all your skills correctly would also help us meet whatever your unstated personal time-goal was for the run.

[Gemina]

My PUG got 'the coach' last night. The coach is someone I refer to in-game that gives unsolicited advice to players during a dungeon run, effectively slowing it down even more than if they just decided to keep their trap shut.

Now, I get that these intentions are for the greater good, and I have debated with other posters on here about a fine line between good intent and trollish behavior when it comes to this. That is not the point of me bringing this up. I don't want to start a debate. The reason why I bring it up is because if you are going to give this advice in an attempt to help a player, you best be doing your own damn job correctly first!

This effin coach taking the form of our tank, couldn't use a CD or dodge an AoE to save his life. He literally just sat in the AoEs, not in tank stance to at least help mitigate some of that damage, and was also losing aggro in the process. My divine benison icon would go away as quickly as it appears. Then he has audacity to tell the group that our DMG is low, and stops in the middle of nowhere to give the SAM and BLM proper rotations. I can't express in words how pissed off I was.

The cherry on top though was his comment to me of "regen>hard casted cures... just FYI" before swiftly making an exit after the last boss. Oh man, I so lost my schite. He was paying so much attention to the DPS that he couldn't see I was hard casting cures ON TOP Of regens just to keep his arse alive. I mean, why even tank bro? This should be a meme, if it isn't already. #%^ PoS #$%^ tank! T_T

[Ilan]

I can offer a perspective of another MDPS: I do things like that all the time, because I have zero trust (backed up by personal experience) in my fellow party members from DF. The uptime lost generally doesn't matter at all in normal mode, and trying to do stuff the "optimal" rather than the "safe" way - and expecting others to do so as well - is asking for a quick death.

When i'm on melee i make ranges move away from the boss, i simply don't move. Either we all die or they move, easy.

[Mixt]

Shiva hard mode in trial roulette.

We have a dark knight MT'ing.

I notice a bit into the fight that even in Sword Oath, because paladins only have an aggro combo at 50 i am rapidly catching up to her on aggro because she's not using Grit to generate more aggro herself.

So i Shirk her to try to mitigate the issue.

It doesn't help, before Shirk can come off CD i end up ripping aggro of her...just as Shiva does her big cleave.
Result: The Dark Knight, myself and a single healer are the only ones left alive.

What was i supposed to do? Stop attacking entirely and go stand in the corner?

[Dreggit]

Over the weeks of doing omega raids, when off tanking, I get a 50/50 split of reactions to covering a MT for a buster or a healer after being rezed. Some MTs are appreciative and others get upset about it, likewise with healers, but I mean, if you're at 20k up and a buster is coming and healers are low on no, does it not make sense to cover, cool down and clemancy myself?

I thought it was helpful to alleviate pressure off tanks and healers when there is trouble afoot

(In other news, almost completed my 300 Pally chievo for the mount on mostly o11 and o12 and somehow still haven't gotten the card drop. Rip my collection)

[Dreggit]

<<To clarify, a tank that's at low health and a healer who was recently rezed and coming into a raid wide ape or damage pool>>

Mobile needs a way to edit posts... or does it? I don't know

[kupokage]

SE still hasn't implemented a min ilevel for leveling dungeons.

Unglamoured Atma weapon in Shisui, lvl 1 unglamoured glamour headpiece in Braflox etc.

Gives us a min Ilevel for MSQ Baelsar's Wall, but nothing for Sirensong Sea. GG.