Final Fantasy XIV 1.23b - Would you Play it if Available?

[azura84]

1.0 is why i know SE could do better, and sadly yoshi doesn't realize that just because western mmo's took off doesn't mean that what tanaka did with both XI and XIV 1.0 was bad, the design behind it was just flawed. It feels as though this dev team and yoshi in particular are intentionally not looking at what came before, either out of fear of another dalamud or they just really think a copy of WoW is the answer. Even though WoW had its own downfall when it's developers started creating garbage from Cataclysm on. There is no danger in XIV today, just thousands of hollow quests, FATEs and acres of open world gone to waste.

[Delily]

Yt feels as though this dev team and yoshi in particular are intentionally not looking at what came before, either out of fear of another dalamud or they just really think a copy of WoW is the answer.

Let me look into my crystal ball. WoW is singlehandedly the most successful MMORPG ever created, and may very well be the most successful video ever created. Yoshi said WoW was the basis for XIV and in era in which they are plenty of F2P games, it's done well for a subscription service.

So, yes, copying WoW is the answer.

Also, in terms of looking at what came before, Square literally runs a first generation MMO. XI is still running and doing well, but it's not exactly breaking subscription numbers.

[azura84]

Let me look into my crystal ball. WoW is singlehandedly the most successful MMORPG ever created, and may very well be the most successful video ever created. Yoshi said WoW was the basis for XIV and in era in which they are plenty of F2P games, it's done well for a subscription service.

So, yes, copying WoW is the answer.

Also, in terms of looking at what came before, Square literally runs a first generation MMO. XI is still running and doing well, but it's not exactly breaking subscription numbers.

The point of looking back isn't to copy the progression system of XI, it's to copy the designs of the content they created. WoW was good, but it has been as or more stagnant since Cataclysm and It doesn't even come close to being as continuously successful as Grand Theft Auto Online or GTAV ["The $6 billion revenues, for example, is far past the $4 billion achieved by best-selling films such as Star Wars and Gone With The Wind (adjusted for inflation, and adding DVD sales to the $3 billion box office receipts). With 90 Million copies sold world wide."]. And people continue to think WoW is somewhere above XIV when it isn't. They both average around 500k-650k active characters per month and WoW did okay overseas but nothing like XIV has done, WoW is a western MMO and has catered to the market and cultural behaviors of NA mostly. No it is not the only avenue to take, it just happened to be the biggest because nothing compared to it, now we have two stagnant vertically progressed mmorpgs competing over the same crown with the same hamster wheels.