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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Eureka, by some peoples thoughts, is successful for them. Glamours clearly havent been, due to all the complaining here on the forums.

    Ultimate is probably about as successful as eureka, probably less actually, in terms of number of people able to access and do the content.
    People enjoying Eureka doesn’t mean that the content as a whole has been successful, much less well-received. I’d wager to say, by all the complaints surrounding it, that it hasn’t been well-received by a significant portion of the playerbase. Even the JP playerbase was complaining about Pagos. Meanwhile, I don’t see any “Please save Eureka” threads being made, unlike the thread made about not cancelling a third Ultimate for Stormblood—which attracted both raiders and non-raiders alike. At most, there are feedback threads made about Eureka that offer more criticisms than not. Too bad they continue to be ignored.


    Ultimate wasn’t made to cater to the majority of the playerbase, and the developers never advertised it as such—but I think it’s probably been the most successful of all the new content added in Stormblood. Even with it being designed for the 1%—because more than the 1% enjoyed watching the races on Twitch, and watching their friends and well-known streamers progress and clear the content. Enough that some even stepped forward to ask the developers to reconsider their cancellation of the third Ultimate. Again, I don’t see people asking that of Eureka.

    Not that Ultimate’s competitors had much in their arsenal—Eureka and Rival Wings. Anemos was relatively successful, but Pagos flopped and I feel like Pyros is the developer’s damage control to try and salvage a piece of content that was supposed to be a cornerstone to Stormblood, and that failed spectacularly in its second installment. Meanwhile, Rival Wings queues died Week 2 on Aether, so I don’t think much more needs to be said there.


    Glamours and the like have barely any comparison to Eureka. As shoddy as the system itself is, and with how much room for improvement there is to the Glamour Dresser and Glamour Plate system, you don’t see people blatantly not glamouring because of it. And I see more RP tags than I see praise for Pagos. But, by all means, continue to create and play with your strawmen.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    lol, thats not fair, wth does 'successful' mean in terms of the things listed and how can they compare to Pyros?
    See above.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Eureka, by some peoples thoughts, is successful for them. Glamours clearly havent been, due to all the complaining here on the forums.

    Ultimate is probably about as successful as eureka, probably less actually, in terms of number of people able to access and do the content.
    Ultimate also takes a fraction of the resources and was made for a fraction of the playerbase. The only thing locking ppl out is the skill requirement and effort. Eureka on the other hand was made for the majority, takes no skill and barely any effort so if its just as successful as Ultimate that really speaks to how bad Eureka is, it says nothing about Ultimate other than ppl actually enjoy doing it because they feel its worth the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    There's other pieces of content I could name that I could care less about (Lords of Verminon, Triple Triad) I could go on but honestly I am just tired of all this theme parked MMO sprinkled in a game like XIV I just don't understand why everything has so many different flavors but none of them really tickle my fancy. I actually forgot today was patch day because I really don't care anymore all my hopes are into 5.0, if they continue to make bad decisions then I am just going to take my time elsewhere as I know what I like in an MMO and lately XIV isn't doing it for me.
    you've answered your own question (if you even asked any). The lack of interesting content is wearing you down and by all means, if its not worth your money, stop playing/paying for it.
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    I'm loved XI and I really wanted to like Eureka just because of all the XI stuff put into it, but it is just bad..... really... really bad... At least i could turn away from Diadem, but they stuck our relics in Eureka.

    I tolerated Anemos because it was easy, jump in the train and go get my gear, cool beans.

    Pagos was a different monstrosity all together, In XI we liked the grind because we made friends in it and there was things you accomplished along the way such as gear, friends, hardship; the most you could hope for on the way to completing your relic in pagos was some really really crappy reskins, a couple minions (I still dont see why these are even a thing) and a bunch of nostalgic glamour gear that might have a purpose but nobody knows because gear seems to mean shit in eureka anyways.

    Just stop SE, just shoot Eureka in the head and stop...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    you've answered your own question (if you even asked any). The lack of interesting content is wearing you down and by all means, if its not worth your money, stop playing/paying for it.
    I did answer my own question but I'm waiting till I hear about 5.0 or anything major that'll decide it for me if not it's WC 3 Reforged and Classic WoW since there's no way XIV can compete with that, it's not only the lack of interesting content it's the predictable cycle. I've played this game since ARR, played through HW and barely anything has changed, you can name the next cycle of content in 5.0: we'll get 2 dungeons for expert, MSQ dungeon for anything under, 2 trials, normal raid, then savage it doesn't change and I am tired of it I don't get why they're still doing this.

    I want a change in 5.0 I know there's people who like this predictable patch cycle but I personally don't I want to enjoy this game again but right now, in the state the game is in it's not doing that for me and I know it isn't, the only reason i'm subbed is for the house that I own and FC house if that wasn't the case then I'd let my sub fall off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-Cat View Post
    I'd rather have new chocobo racing tracks than more Eureka.
    and I'd rather have new Lords of Verminion achievements. No really, the quick 5 weekly games of 'curpstomp the AI by spamming the OP Fafnir minion' is more engaging and fun than Eureka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Eureka, by some peoples thoughts, is successful for them. Glamours clearly havent been, due to all the complaining here on the forums.

    Ultimate is probably about as successful as eureka, probably less actually, in terms of number of people able to access and do the content.
    But Ultimate takes considerably less time and resources to produce because it reuses virtually everything. Furthermore, it's only intending to cater towards the hardcore demographic whereas Eureka wants a more general audience. 1% for Ultimate makes it successful when compared against its target audience, thus making that percentage significantly higher. Meanwhile, 5% for Eureka is a disaster because that means content designed for a much larger audience was widely rejected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Same here and I've never ever played a single chocobo race, didn't even unlocked it.
    You should. It feels a little sluggish at first but is kind of relaxing and somewhat fun if you get into the breeding aspect of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I want a change in 5.0 I know there's people who like this predictable patch cycle but I personally don't I want to enjoy this game again but right now, in the state the game is in it's not doing that for me and I know it isn't, the only reason i'm subbed is for the house that I own and FC house if that wasn't the case then I'd let my sub fall off.
    I really doubt anything drastic is going to change in FFxiv and we have 2 expansions to look at as reference. Even though FFxiv is "young" compared to WoW and maybe expac 5-6 sees a huge overhaul, no one can predict. I honestly don't expect 5.0 to be any different patch-cycle-wise from 4.0.

    and I'm sorry for your house/FC, I personally would let that baby burn with your sub and save that money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-Cat View Post
    You should. It feels a little sluggish at first but is kind of relaxing and somewhat fun if you get into the breeding aspect of it.
    Only if I can get access to a golden chocobo, run it across the ocean to a hidden island over it's mountains and find the epic ability to summon Knight's of the Round. Chicken Head?.... no thanks.
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