Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Put up a PF for Ramuh, Shiva, and Ravana EX unsynced for WT.

Didn't manage to even get past Ramuh because apparently "Kill the adds before attacking the boss" is some indecipherable message that only astrophysicists can hope to comprehend.

After three wipes at the exact same part, I disbanded the party. If you can't listen to instructions then waste someone else's time, please.

[RokkuEkkusu]

Put up a PF for Ramuh, Shiva, and Ravana EX unsynced for WT.

Didn't manage to even get past Ramuh because apparently "Kill the adds before attacking the boss" is some indecipherable message that only astrophysicists can hope to comprehend.

After three wipes at the exact same part, I disbanded the party. If you can't listen to instructions then waste someone else's time, please.

This is why anytime I get Ramuh EX as a WT duty, I just battle him solo unsynced at any of the 3 tank roles. Been doing it ever since I geared each of the tank roles to I350. I can grab orbs to get the buff, self heal via combos or abilieis, kill all adds during add phase, and beat Ramuh without much trouble. I cleared the duty in 4 minutes and 30 seconds to 5 minutes.

[Amethyst_Esp]

Put up a PF for Ramuh, Shiva, and Ravana EX unsynced for WT.

Didn't manage to even get past Ramuh because apparently "Kill the adds before attacking the boss" is some indecipherable message that only astrophysicists can hope to comprehend.

After three wipes at the exact same part, I disbanded the party. If you can't listen to instructions then waste someone else's time, please.

I always dread getting Ramuh or Ifrit for this very reason. You'd think at level 70 people would know to kill the adds and not use DOTs.

[Aster_E]

I always dread getting Ramuh or Ifrit for this very reason. You'd think at level 70 people would know to kill the adds and not use DOTs.

You would think after so many years each of RPGs and MMOs being a thing, people would know that standing in the fire is usually bad and killing adds is typically a must.

With those two fights, people don't understand, or seem to care, that pushing past a certain HP% will mean death for everyone. That's why I'd constantly tell people no DPSing Ifrit past 19% until the last set of nails is down, and no DPSing Ramuh past 66% until those first five adds are wasted (the lone sixth later on can be ignored), during the extreme versions. I'll let you guess how many people talked back to me about it, leading to yet more death, versus the times people do listen and we clear no problem.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

You would think after so many years each of RPGs and MMOs being a thing, people would know that standing in the fire is usually bad and killing adds is typically a must.

With those two fights, people don't understand, or seem to care, that pushing past a certain HP% will mean death for everyone. That's why I'd constantly tell people no DPSing Ifrit past 19% until the last set of nails is down, and no DPSing Ramuh past 66% until those first five adds are wasted (the lone sixth later on can be ignored), during the extreme versions. I'll let you guess how many people talked back to me about it, leading to yet more death, versus the times people do listen and we clear no problem.

Unfortunately, this happens when almost everything else can be brute forced through no problem. It's among the reasons I wish SE would stop nerfing older content just to speed people along. It encourages bad habits when they can easily ignore most mechanics.

I had a weird Ifrit WT party that wound up skipping the third Hellfire somehow. I was sure we were going to wipe, but Ifrit didn't even manage to get it off. I didn't know that was possible.

You have a very small window to burn him down before he endlessly spams Hellfire if you ignore nails. I've managed it solo on both Samurai and Warrior but it's more or less lucky based.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

This is why anytime I get Ramuh EX as a WT duty, I just battle him solo unsynced at any of the 3 tank roles. Been doing it ever since I geared each of the tank roles to I350. I can grab orbs to get the buff, self heal via combos or abilieis, kill all adds during add phase, and beat Ramuh without much trouble. I cleared the duty in 4 minutes and 30 seconds to 5 minutes.

That's what I wound up doing in the end.

I always dread getting Ramuh or Ifrit for this very reason. You'd think at level 70 people would know to kill the adds and not use DOTs.

I had a weird Ifrit WT party that wound up skipping the third Hellfire somehow. I was sure we were going to wipe, but Ifrit didn't even manage to get it off. I didn't know that was possible.

[kikix12]

I had a weird Ifrit WT party that wound up skipping the third Hellfire somehow. I was sure we were going to wipe, but Ifrit didn't even manage to get it off. I didn't know that was possible.

If he is in the middle of a cast of some skill, he will not use Hellfire until after that. It's just a theory, but maybe the trigger for him to cast hellfire occurred at the beginning of a cast and he died before it was finished, therefore the trigger was never resolved for a wipe.

[Frizze]

But dang did that smash what little tank pride I had left into oblivion.

It could have been worse. You could have found out that they were opening in diversion, and using it and lucid on CD throughout the fight. If ive taken those two steps, the only other way for me to drop hate is to stop attacking or die. And neither of those options benefit the run any. But dont let this be a blow to your ego. You met a good dps(a great one would have been using their enmity skills) who plays a class that outputs good damage. Now that youve seen(one version) what good dps looks like from a tanks perspective, youve got a great target to aim for as you improve. Hell, this is sort of like a game i play with a tank friend of mine from time to time. Ill go absolutely nuts and challenge him to keep up. If im not making him sweat, i need to be better - if he isnt keeping control, he needs to be better.

I had a weird Ifrit WT party that wound up skipping the third Hellfire somehow. I was sure we were going to wipe, but Ifrit didn't even manage to get it off. I didn't know that was possible.

Another possibility. Once the final nails are finished you can immediately go into your full burn on Ifrit, even before he actually casts hellfire. If youre quick enough, he wont get the jump off and therefore wont even get to use his final hellfire(if he does jump, the nails being gone means its just the same weak hellfire regardless of any extra damage you did). The same works on Ramuh - after the arbiters are gone you dont have to wait for judgement bolt to attack, but he's still got most of his health so he'll get the cast off regardless.

[Lilseph]

Put up a PF for Ramuh, Shiva, and Ravana EX unsynced for WT.

Didn't manage to even get past Ramuh because apparently "Kill the adds before attacking the boss" is some indecipherable message that only astrophysicists can hope to comprehend.

After three wipes at the exact same part, I disbanded the party. If you can't listen to instructions then waste someone else's time, please.

You'd be surprised, Berteaux. People hardly pay attention to anything. They are in their own world of "muh sub" and won't move from there. -.- You see it with mechanics, skills, callouts, you name it. People don't care. This is why I second the motion of stop nerfing content. Brute forcing through creates bad habits like Bourne said. It's baffling for me when people say that, if you want efficiency, you must rely on PF (Sometimes) and not randoms. Such is the average skill level of our playerbase...

As a DF story.

Yesterday I was on my alt, and I decided to do 50/60. So I queue up as a tank because gil bonus and fast queues. I consider myself pretty competent when I play tanks, I know my stuff. We get Lost City of Amdapor.

After the barriers go down, I greet the party (got silence in return, how surprising), waited for protect and started pulling. So I use HG then Sentinel then Rampart+Bulwark... my HP was sloooowly getting depleted and no healing whatsoever. I died and asked the healer why I wasn't getting any heals, the lala SAM said "ur sh*t tank". I tell them that no, I'm an amazing tank but I wasn't getting heals. We pull again... dead. The lala insults me once again. I tell them that no, I'm a very good tank, but sadly I can't heal myself (not at level 50 at least!).

I minimize the amount of monsters I'm pulling and things were dying extreeeeeeeemely slow... heck, I was outdpsing them even spamming Total Eclipse. I nope'd and closed the game. I'm not dealing with that, so I decided fo finish the second season of Konosuba. Such a good anime... I feel empty now. 3rd season, when.

[Thamorian]

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He give you any reason as to why he thought you were a bad tank?