More Waste

[azura84]

Come on SE, it's been 5 years, how have you not seen the error in this. Replacing equipment so quickly you've gotten to the point that you can't really obtain some of them before they become obsolete.

I know you can obtain the Scaevan Magitek weapons via Savage Alphascape but it's now finally week 7 in which you can get them with Genesis and you're already releasing new content that will dwarf the weapon (Eureka).

This may sound like a lame complaint for much of the current XIV community but I would really prefer more content to USE my gear on than just the next new place to get gear. Most of us still dont even understand the point to gear in eureka, or the gear you placed in Eureka. You need to give us a reason to use this stuff in the open world, or make it significant somehow for slightly longer. We don't need two new full sets of gear per job for every patch, stagger it out more, make your work last longer!

I know this is old school talk but really for a PVE player it just feels like I have less and less incentive to even try savage content or extreme when you make it easier in a few weeks; cheapening the feel of any reward or achievement much less the use of the equipment.

Happy raiding everyone~

Correction: genesis, not verity. ty senorpatty

[Deceptus]

Wait a few months an it'll go from 7 weeks required to 4 for a weapon. And then when 5.0 drops, you'll be able to buy everything via tomes.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Well the 4.0 relic does kind of really depend on the previous tiers of Eureka to stay active. If you have an Anemos weapon but no one's in pagos? Good luck getting your relic done.

[azura84]

The Fewer people in pagos the easier it gets though, healers can solo NMs if they're in there alone, i've seen mr.happy do it a few times.

[SenorPatty]

Well the 4.0 relic does kind of really depend on the previous tiers of Eureka to stay active. If you have an Anemos weapon but no one's in pagos? Good luck getting your relic done.

In addition to this, the sub stats on the Eureka weapon is going to decide it's worth. Not to mention Scaevan weap will have an upgrade version, most likely requiring token from the last part of the 24man tier plus the previous others.

EDIT: Verity? Don't you mean Genesis? (@OP)

[Fynlar]

Wait a few months an it'll go from 7 weeks required to 4 for a weapon. And then when 5.0 drops, you'll be able to buy everything via tomes.

At which point the weapon will now be out of date and therefore not worth pursuing. Did you even read the topic?

[NolLacnala]

Their brains are Excel spreadsheets and can't understand why +1 isn't enough motivation

[azura84]

I feel Michael Scott said it best. "Why are you the way that you are; I hate so much about the things you choose to be. Honestly every time I try to do something fun, you make it.. not that."

[HyoMinPark]

I know you can obtain the Scaevan Magitek weapons via Savage Alphascape but it's now finally week 7 in which you can get them with Genesis and you're already releasing new content that will dwarf the weapon (Eureka).

Not necessarily.

Anemos offered i355 weapons, which was the same as Byakko, the current Ex primal. Right now, Suzaku is the current primal, and she offers i385 weapons. If Pyros follows Anemos’ formula, then the weapon won’t be better than the Genesis weapon (i385 versus i390). i385 also follows the 15 item level increases the Pagos weapon saw from Anemos (355 > 370; 370 > 385).

If the Pyros weapon is i395 like some think it will be, the RNG substats will determine its worth over the i390 — bad rolls on the substats will not push it over the i390 weapon if the Tome weapon has good stats for the job (e.g., MCH, RDM, AST, WHM). As it stands now, for some jobs, the i390 weapon is garbage compared to the i385 Suzaku weapon despite item level because of bad substats (e.g., BRD—they don’t even want the i400 weapon because no Crit).

I personally think Pyros will give i380 gear and i385 weapons because of prior precedents. And I think the fourth installment of Eureka will push it to i400 (so another 15 item levels) with an upgrade after a few weeks to push it to i405 and make it finally on par with the Savage weapon. SE is nothing if not predictable, after all.

[Iscah]

At which point the weapon will now be out of date and therefore not worth pursuing. Did you even read the topic?

Actually, since the Scaevan gear seems to be this expansion's equivalent to the Ironworks/Shire sets, it's the one purchase that probably does have lasting value at this point.