The whale mount is up on Mogstation

[Marxam]

seeing all the whales in rhalgar reach is so meta that it hurts. Honestly a bit over-priced for a 2-seater with generic music. All you had to do SE was put some good music other than the generic flying mount music and I probably would have bought it on a sale but you lost a customer now. I support this game but only when it respects me as customer and not a whale.

[Enla]

seeing all the whales in rhalgar reach is so meta that it hurts. Honestly a bit over-priced for a 2-seater with generic music. All you had to do SE was put some good music other than the generic flying mount music and I probably would have bought it on a sale but you lost a customer now. I support this game but only when it respects me as customer and not a whale.

That actually is a good point if it truly only has the generic flight music. I know it was made for the Chinese server and that for some reason the dev's who add their exclusive content make it with wildly varying degrees of quality, but they couldn't even change up the theme a little?

[Vahlnir]

More correctly:

If you want to dictate how the money of other people is spent, take it from them and spend it yourself. We call that "taxation". It's legal, if done by representatives of the common people. Not so much if it's done by the common people directly.

[Aster_E]

It has nothing to do with restraint. If the person has the funds and wants to buy a $30 mount, you have no business to butt your nose into their financial affairs and say otherwise whether you disagree in personally spending that much or not.

It has nothing to do with being more responsible with their money at all until you hear stories of people spending $30 on the mount instead of $30 on a bill, gas, or food. Then, we can argue the idea of fiscal responsibility, but you literally have no reason or say to push your ideals on their personal spending habits if they have extra income to do so that literally harms no one but your own jealously about the issue.

Way to miss the point of what I said.

You can buy something if you really, really want to buy it, as long as that thing is harmless. In the short run, buying one thing from a cash shop isn't going to do horrible, terrible things by any stretch, assuming you had the money you're right to spend (since it's yours). In the long run, it enables more of such sales to take place on top of the fees we already pay, and also on the back of systems in the game in need of more potential rewards (for example, the achievement certificates, which only have a couple items that weren't previously part of another system that was halted because it grew too big). To top that off, people are jumping on these new items as soon as they come out, because they're new. On the contrary to what you said, despite it somehow missing the point, that does scream "lack of restraint" on your part.

Furthermore, I did not say I want to dictate other peoples' expenditures. What I did say is that, if I were to suggest anything like a boycott or similar action, an action that would be taken up by we the consumers upon agreement with one another, would fall on deaf ears, and thus there would be no agreement, no action taken. The fact that you assume I want to come after your money or habits to keep you from making decisions tells me that you're being more defensive than you really need to be in this conversation. I don't think you intended that to be the case, but your words tell me this regardless.

So, really, I'm not attacking you for your decision to purchase a thing, just like I don't attack people who go out and buy so many packs of cigarettes or insane amounts of beer that doesn't even taste decent. I don't think it's a healthy practice, and I don't like businesses that take advantage of it because they know they can both get away with it and make more money in the process. You, however; you're fine. Don't take my disapproval of the cash shop as an attack on you.

I disagree. You jealous whiners who can't afford Mogstation stuff have no evidence that will happen.

Just having the money doesn't mean you have to buy a thing, and not buying a thing doesn't mean you don't have the money.

Those of us who DO have the money but choose not to blow it as soon as new things come out, however, do know this all too well in regards to business models. If a business model fails then it stops unless the owner is a dumbass bound, one day, to run for President that only other idiots would elect. If a business does something slimy and underhanded, but makes a ton of money off of it, then they are more like to keep going (eg., adding blatant cash shops to other fees already in place such as full subscriptions plus additional services, loot boxes to an extreme, etc.) until enough controversy picks up where the law has to step in. Then it becomes a definite problem, obviously. Right now? The cash shop is just greedy and I don't support it.

[Cincierta]

Speaking as a norwegian.
That is not a mount, that there is DINNER!

I just saw this and envisioned a bunch of miqo'tes running after the whale with forks and knives.

[Skivvy]

To top that off, people are jumping on these new items as soon as they come out, because they're new. On the contrary to what you said, despite it somehow missing the point, that does scream "lack of restraint" on your part.

So, really, I'm not attacking you for your decision to purchase a thing, just like I don't attack people who go out and buy so many packs of cigarettes or insane amounts of beer that doesn't even taste decent. I don't think it's a healthy practice, and I don't like businesses that take advantage of it because they know they can both get away with it and make more money in the process. You, however; you're fine. Don't take my disapproval of the cash shop as an attack on you.

Just having the money doesn't mean you have to buy a thing, and not buying a thing doesn't mean you don't have the money.

Ok, I'm curious - Why should people 'show restraint' when it comes to buying a new mount in a game? It's a bloody fluff item, and the cost is inconsequential for most people.

Also...comparing buying an in-game item to feeding one's addiction to cigarettes or alcohol? That's a bit of a stretch. Cigarettes and alcohol have proven negative health effects and can be highly addictive. Buying mounts and costumes generally doesn't threaten one's health. :P

I get it. I'm not a fan of the cash shop in a sub game either. I absolutely agree with you that SE is being greedy. They have gone full steam ahead with the amount of items they put in there as well as how much they charge. So by all means, bring complaints about the actual cash shop itself. However, SE has found a business practice that they're happy with, and I can't imagine it's going to change any time soon. With that said, there is no reason to start busting out the insults to those that actually buy items. This is a bloody game. It's meant to be enjoyed, and that translates into different ways for every single person that plays.

[Sigma-Astra]

Way to miss the point of what I said.

You can buy something if you really, really want to buy it, as long as that thing is harmless. In the short run, buying one thing from a cash shop isn't going to do horrible, terrible things by any stretch, assuming you had the money you're right to spend (since it's yours). In the long run, it enables more of such sales to take place on top of the fees we already pay, and also on the back of systems in the game in need of more potential rewards (for example, the achievement certificates, which only have a couple items that weren't previously part of another system that was halted because it grew too big). To top that off, people are jumping on these new items as soon as they come out, because they're new. On the contrary to what you said, despite it somehow missing the point, that does scream "lack of restraint" on your part.

Furthermore, I did not say I want to dictate other peoples' expenditures. What I did say is that, if I were to suggest anything like a boycott or similar action, an action that would be taken up by we the consumers upon agreement with one another, would fall on deaf ears, and thus there would be no agreement, no action taken. The fact that you assume I want to come after your money or habits to keep you from making decisions tells me that you're being more defensive than you really need to be in this conversation. I don't think you intended that to be the case, but your words tell me this regardless.

So, really, I'm not attacking you for your decision to purchase a thing, just like I don't attack people who go out and buy so many packs of cigarettes or insane amounts of beer that doesn't even taste decent. I don't think it's a healthy practice, and I don't like businesses that take advantage of it because they know they can both get away with it and make more money in the process. You, however; you're fine. Don't take my disapproval of the cash shop as an attack on you.

I didn't miss the point and I'm not taking it as a direct attack either like you think I am. Everything I've said is technically correct and no matter how you try and spin the idea, it still and factually is, literally none of your business in what others do nor does it harm you personally or impact you in any way whether someone buys the whale mount or does not. Literally, it does not affect you in any way and the only reason it does is because you're the one taking the act of buying it personally.

If a person really wants something and they have the means to buy it on the first day, it does not mean there's a lack of restraint. If that were the case then you'd have to argue that anyone who puts in pre-orders for collector editions have "restraint" problems or those who spend money on 2-day shipping because they couldn't wait the additional extra days for free shipping.

Again, this is a silly thing to disapprove the community of since it's literally no one's business what someone else does with their own money and placing the sole fault and ire into the people who want the whale is incorrect and wrong.

[Zephera]

I really like the mount myself, quite a bit bigger than I thought it would be.

[Hestzhyen]

If people want to waste their money that's their business. I hate the cash shop so I will never use it. And yes I'm annoyed to see yet another potential in-game incentive/reward aim for people who have no idea what digital goods are really worth. Very on the nose at least this time.

That said, when are we going to get more achievement/longevity rewards? I have tons and tons of points sitting around and nothing to spend them on since the claw mount was released (which hardly made a dent). Another mount- especially a two-seater- would be great to have.

[Liam_Harper]

seeing all the whales in rhalgar reach is so meta that it hurts. Honestly a bit over-priced for a 2-seater with generic music. All you had to do SE was put some good music other than the generic flying mount music and I probably would have bought it on a sale but you lost a customer now. I support this game but only when it respects me as customer and not a whale.

They're getting a bit cheap with mounts tbh. Typhon mount not having any "Fungah" animation was also a big missed oppertunity and disappointment. Heck, he doesn't even have saddle, they just took the boss model and slapped a mount tag and generic music on it.