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  1. #31
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    Kirbfucius's Avatar
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    Azrael Lynx
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    My biggest issue with the whale is that it seems pretty clearly designed to be a 4- or even 8-person mount. It is remarkably huge. Devs have even stated that they could create a 4-person mount. But it seems somewhere along the way someone axed that idea and knocked it back down to 2-person.

    If this could carry 8 people it would be an instant-buy from me. I'd love something big to carry folks around on while doing maps or other random content.

    Yes, I'm sad it doesn't incentivize submarines or fishing or any actual in-game content, but coming from the Chinese/Korean servers I didn't really expect it to. Maybe one day submarines will have a purpose, but today is not that day.
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  2. #32
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    *looks at the useless achievement points*....*sighs* Why cant we have something like that there?

    But sure lets have no new costume for the halloween like event and lets not give any compensation for all the time that the servers were down the last few weeks...just put another expensive mount behind the cash shop. (And some housing walls, that people could lose if they take a long break..) People want more to do but lets put mounts behind a paywall instead as a incentive in the game..
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  3. #33
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's very interesting. A lot of the people who complain about Mog Station mounts not being available in-game do not appear to be mount collectors to any significant degree if one takes a peek at their character's lodestone profile.
    You'd have to make that info public which most don't. No need to be a condescending jerk.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  4. #34
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    Wanzer's Avatar
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    Eulalie Wanzer
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The Mog Station is actually pretty reasonable when you look at the sort of tactics and products deployed by rival MMO's and other multiplayer games. At the end of the day, the offerings are largely limited to luxury products and are marketed as such.
    Alright, but what rival MMOs are you talking about? And to be more specific : what rival MMOs with a monthly subscription?
    If I look at the other MMOs with a sub, I'm not quite sure we can describe FFXIV as reasonable.
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  5. #35
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    Alestorm's Avatar
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    One could argue the Star Wars mmo, since they have a sub option and still encurage you to buy things from the cash shop. Heck, it's the only way to get a mount that I could ever find.
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  6. #36
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    Soraki-Muppe's Avatar
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    Sor-aki Muppe
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    Odin
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    Speaking as a norwegian.
    That is not a mount, that there is DINNER!
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  7. #37
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzer View Post
    Alright, but what rival MMOs are you talking about? And to be more specific : what rival MMOs with a monthly subscription?
    If I look at the other MMOs with a sub, I'm not quite sure we can describe FFXIV as reasonable.
    WoW charges a much higher price for basic services such as name changes and race changes than FFXIV does. You also can't play every class on a single character like you can in FFXIV so if you have multiple characters that you wish to shift over to a different faction/server then you're set back by quite a bit.

    Other MMO's launched with a subscription fee initially but then dropped it in favour of being F2P - but typically made it appealing to subscribe to an optional fee in exchange for advantageous in-game bonuses. I believe ESO does that? I haven't played that since launch, admittedly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You'd have to make that info public which most don't. No need to be a condescending jerk.
    It's public by default. Nor is it being a 'condescending jerk' to make an observation.
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  8. #38
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You'd have to make that info public which most don't. No need to be a condescending jerk.
    There's also no need to whine about this every time SE sells something new, but people do. This is optional content at an extra cost. Very few of the designs have ever struck me as markedly better than anything you can obtain in-game, and what does is usually NPC clothing that most MMOs would never provide you with, anyway. There is nothing condescending in pointing out that some of the people complaining are simply doing so for the sake of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzer View Post
    Alright, but what rival MMOs are you talking about? And to be more specific : what rival MMOs with a monthly subscription?
    If I look at the other MMOs with a sub, I'm not quite sure we can describe FFXIV as reasonable.
    WoW is a glaring example.

    In the end, it's like any other consumer product - don't like the price, move on. To an extent, feedback assists in fine-tuning their product offering, but what's "reasonable" with respect to consumer decisions is very subjective to that consumer. And besides, most of these things are steeply discounted if you just wait a while. So I really cannot see the issue.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 10-31-2018 at 02:46 AM.

  9. #39
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    Sigma Alpheratz
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 99
    I was looking forward to a 4-people mount if not 8, too bad this whale can't do that despite having all the space necessary, it would probably break the game and the servers to enable more riding slots on it!...


    I'll think about getting it since I like the model, if only it glowed ... ... ... sighs!...
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  10. #40
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChewieFlakes View Post
    Yeah keep shilling for horrible service and a company that is hell bent on wringing each and every dollar out of you. It's 2018, you don't need precognition to know DDOS is a thing. Even without DDOSing the game's servers are far below average and despite being increasingly nickel and dimed for microtransactions none of those proceeds have gone back into the game. Despite 5 years after 2.0 it still feels like we're playing an mmo from the mid 2000's.
    So, don't buy the whale. Problem solved. You're getting angry over what other people do with their money when it's none of your business.

    A lot of people in this thread need to stop worrying about what other people do with their money. It is literally none of your business.
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