Few close friends quit FFXIV, one wants to explain why, hopes SE improves the game

[kupokage]

I don't mind the repetitive grind, same ol formula etc. Could it be better, sure.

I'm playing for the story. I loved this game's events leading up to The Final Steps of Faith and Castrum Fluminis trials for example. The music, cinematography, everything. No other game out there atm can get me that invested in their story, especially now with the reveal at the end of 4.4 MSQ. That was 5 years in the making.

As far as i'm concerned, FFXIV ARR is a book series that I have to pay 14.99 a month to continue reading. And if i have to repeat a few dungeons and cap weekly tomes whatever so I can continue turning the pages, eh, what's $15 a month to me.

[Hamada]

No offense, but copy/pasting a bunch of trash mobs with existing models and tossing them into a new zone with turned up HP and defense values isn't exactly what I'd call trying. Eureka is so bare bones, you could mistake it for an indie dev project. There is literally nothing innovation of new about Eureka. It borrows everything from existing material, including Diadem—itself a glorified FATE farm. Changing things up would be increasing the raids to six fights per tier, adding accessories to Primals ala Lakshmi, developing world content and etc. With that all said, there is nothing inherently wrong with re-purposing existing content. It's both cost efficient and necessary. And had they listened to player feedback in regards to Pagos, things may have gone better. When they don't bother to even develop a player sync feature, let alone quests or really anything except yet another uncreative light farm. Don't tell me they're "trying new things!"

exactly, Also I do not see how i insulted them. I mean it is not our fault Ko can't see things what they are truly are?

Sounds like you agree entirely with your "friend" there.

I am still subbed. I am still under my 6 month sub and playing when I can, going after achivments. It is just I am playing much less now and just feels less rewarding because of what my friends are saying, just the same thing over and over again. Keep in mind, this is about more then one friend, so friends without the quotes would of been better. they are unsubbed, hence the pictures one made me post for them to show this. They did do what you said, other things, hence the title " Few close friends quit FFXIV, one wants to explain why, hopes SE improves the game" I mean if SE keeps up with the copy/paste thing and keeps doing what they are doing I may join them as well

[RareItems]

Biggest Issue with FFXIV atm:

- Tab Targeting PVP Combat. Dev's should try to play Black Desert Online and maybe get some ideas on how to improve combat from there.

- Lack of Open world PVP. Eureka + GW2's WvW + BDO's combat mechanics = Success

- 2.0/3.0 zones/Dungeons. The combat at level 1-60 is so slow. Getting queued as a tank into Satasha and spamming 2 skills over and over is not fun xD.


Biggest things FFXIV did right compared to the other MMO I used to play:

- Bi-Weekly banwaves of bots/hackers/exploiters/gold sellers.

- Progression Caps.

- Balanced Game.

- Dev's communicating with it's playerbase and taking feedback .

- Not Addicting .

- Excellent Customer Support.

- Can easily succeed if it turns into a 18+ Mature game and goes full on Adult RP MMO xD.

[kidalutz]

One of the problems also stems from the fact that some players are so adamant about defending SE. Whether it is Pagos, the current server issues (which granted aren't entirely SE's fault) or lackluster content in general. There's always a bunch of people saying nothing's wrong with it. I really wish some people would just stop being fanboys. Newsflash: You can like a game/company but STILL bring up legit criticism.

Pure Conjecture as to whether or not it's fanboys. Just because someone isn't of your same opinion on what the issue doesn't mean they're fanboys defending bad they could genuinely like it. This accusation slinging strikes me as the same poison that the GD forum at wow suffers from people deluding themselves into believing everyone should be of their opinion and no other.

My own Personal Opinion is that the game overall is enjoyable even if there's issues in other areas.

[Marxam]

As someone who has, on occasion, unsub to play other games I can honestly say that the shift to glamour end-game instead of progression has ruined the difficulty for me. Fights aren't even that hard but finding other players at my skill level is, and I'm not even that good of a player, mid-core at best. Also this game has tons of contradictions with regards to it's game design and focus; examples include:

-Push for more PvP by locking glamours behind wolf marks but failing to address basic gameplay feel, balance and server tick lag (really tired of every feast match being a zerg rush on the healers and actions not working as intended ex. holmgang's draw-in)
-No option to dye PAID mogstation items, and over priced for something that is character locked and not account wide (best example of how SE only sees you as a sucker and not a customer)
-Recycled content with heavy grinds and rng tied progression creating fluff content (eureka is Diadem 2.0 but worse)
-Stretching out content to keep people subbed longer but not actually adding any more content (we are receiving the the same amount of content in a 3 month patch but now stretched out to 4+ months)

Those are but a few of the problems with this game. I really do like this game though as someone who has been here since 2.0 beta but I just feel like Yoshi is just creating content to keep people subbed and not to keep people entertained. I feel like whenever I resub for another month I do it begrudgingly. It's even gotten to the point where I don't realize my sub ran out and I get booted during gameplay. As far as the grind goes I actually don't mind it. The contradictions in this game however I do mind. I just want a director that knows what they want and what the players want and not flip-flop on their ideals just for a quick buck.

Also lying about the over 10 mil subscribers really annoyed me as there is no where near that amount of ACTIVE subscribers.

[Hamada]

I am well aware the game I am going to bring up is very criminal with microtransactions but my friend started me on maple story 2 just for a new prospective. I am not going to sit here and say it is better, def has a lot of problems but the thing that really got me to post here about it is the housing system. Maybe SE can take this tip for the next game since I know this suggestion is out of the question unless they do this for 5.0 but the thing I liked was simply this.

Everyone gets an instanced house. Very customizable too, what some people do is really amazing. Anyways what I would like to see is everyone having an instanced house. Also the zones can have predetermined spots where you can construct a building that acts like a zone gate to your instance house. Since these are clearly limited they would be attached to ongoing fees like a monthly gil payment. This way even if you fail to keep up the reincuring fees of the plot you still have your house (teleport to instance) Wards simply do not work, I mean it is a good idea in theory but people hardly make use of them and pretty much a consistent ghost town. So what I am suggesting here, to SE is maybe in new zones or your next MMO, try this route.

[Risvertasashi]

Maybe SE can take this tip for the next game since I know this suggestion is out of the question unless they do this for 5.0 but the thing I liked was simply this.

Everyone gets an instanced house.

The really strange thing? SE's previous MMO not only had this, but also a private/instanced island for every single player.

I know one game isn't like another but it makes it really puzzling that SE implemented such a counterintuitive, limited housing system. It's not like they're new to it.

[Shurrikhan]

No they have not. They did some changes going from ARR to HW, (while most of HW was repeating the final ARR patches) but SB is a complete copy of HW, why do you keep saying "They bee ntrying to shake it up this whole time and look what happens." when they have not? is FFXIV the only game you ever played or something?

I mean they are not trying at all, look at the "progress" (lack of) with the second eureka. If they where trying of any kind of degree, they would of put stuff in it like level sync and other attempts to improve it, not change it to try make the player base play yoshi-p eureka, you saw the backlash on that, and they made quick small changes to try make it more tolerable. The main problem is Dev stubbornness, player base says one thing, they say no you will like this, and the same complaints just pop up. That is not trying.

This. Trying something and having it flop doesn't mean that you tried something new in the first place. Just as often XIV side-projects have flopped specifically because they never bothered to change directions from, or even meaningfully reiterate upon, past mistakes. LoV and RW are perhaps the only truly unique side-contents. Every other project met with significant criticism has been repeated almost verbatim despite that.

[Hamada]

The really strange thing? SE's previous MMO not only had this, but also a private/instanced island for every single player.

I know one game isn't like another but it makes it really puzzling that SE implemented such a counterintuitive, limited housing system. It's not like they're new to it.

I know about that, what I wanted get at is with the idea of intergrading plot points in the open world. instead of having these wards that does not work, why not do what maple story 2 does? basically they have plots scattered everywhere and people pay a recurring (gil) fee. So you buy this plot in the open world that acts like a zone to your instanced house. If one day you can't pay the fee, you just lose the plot, not the house itself since it is already instanced. Also your house is attached to your account, something people been asking for FFXIV.