Do people enjoy Eureka?

[Gokki]

I really dislike it, but i feel i'm forced to do it now because the more i delay the slower my progress will be, and it will stop when next expansion launches. It sucks

I wish i could come back later and solo this on my own faster like what i'm doing now with ARR Relics.

[Mesarthim]

As far I understand one of the recurrent complains about ARR/HW relics was "we don't like how we are forced to do old content to keep it alive", that's why we got Eureka as a mean to earn relics this time around.

It's possible to give us something new that isn't the equivalent of garbage. Eureka could have been significantly better than it currently is. No daily quests. No weekly (non challenge log) quests. No Disciple of the hand or land activities. Enemies in Pagos have about 350,000 hp which is ridiculous considering they didn't give us any boosts from the magia board in there.

I've been playing other games instead since even me who made like 8 anima weapons didn't bother finishing one pagos weapon, despite having made all anemos weapons (not like that part is difficult though).

[Atreides]

Let's be honest. They did this purely to avoid another Diadem scenario where no one did it. With Pagos, they can try to save face and point to some degree of activity. Diadem, on the other hand, is a downright embarrassment as it remains the only piece of content Yoshida has openly said they may simply close down. It's that unpopular.

If they would have put Relic grind into Diadem it would've been just as popular as Eureka, people don't do it because it's fun or appealing but because the relic is gated behind it which wasn't the cause in Diadem.
So saying it's more successful is a far stretch, it is the reward at the end of the stick that counts.

[St0rmchild]

If they would have put Relic grind into Diadem it would've been just as popular as Eureka, people don't do it because it's fun or appealing but because the relic is gated behind it which wasn't the cause in Diadem.
So saying it's more successful is a far stretch, it is the reward at the end of the stick that counts.

They did put one step of HW relic in Diadem, remember ? Initially you had to go Diadem to collect materials for the crafted items you need for one of the earlier steps.
Funny how that quickly got patched out to 'buy it from your friendly grand company' instead...... and I don't see much future for Eureka to be honest - it'll die faster than Diadem with fewer good memories attached to it.

The only good decision about HW relic was to just put one step of it in Diadem, rather than the whole thing - plus the HW relic largely kept step with the tomestone weapon, rather than catch up at end of tier at the edge of obsolescence.

[KageTokage]

I do enjoy the NM's mechanics that are more in line with dungeon/raid bosses as opposed to just being bigger, tougher versions of normal enemies as the vast majority of FATE bosses are.

Aside from that, there's not much I like about the place.

[swiss_Momo]

They did put one step of HW relic in Diadem, remember ? Initially you had to go Diadem to collect materials for the crafted items you need for one of the earlier steps.
Funny how that quickly got patched out to 'buy it from your friendly grand company' instead......

from the top of my head that nerf only happened quite a few patches later after the Umbrites step was already out, so that change was more amongst the lines of the 'usual' over time nerfs to the relic weapon steps.

[Kazgrel]

We thought it sucked with Anemos and it’s NM train...then SE said “hold our beer” and gave us Pagos, which had us begging for the train to be restored.

I’m normally a glass half full type, but I have zero hope/expectations for Pyros and whatever follows.

Silver lining: Pagos inspired me to get off my virtual butt and push into savage instead of contending with the awful grind to get a weapon. Suzaku weapons are enough to clear all content in the game. Anything past them is icing on the cake.

[Aquaslash]

I see a fair amount of people in Pagos with Ultima weapons, Omega weapons and the mount (and one person with all three at once). I often wonder if they'd be in there if it wasn't for the relic

[Ruru_Nayu]

Well my honest opinion about the whole Eureka thing is: It's bad, we're supposed to help eachother in there right? Yeah imagine you want to help someone 4 levels lower than you who is just starting with it, plot twist! You can't because the system doesen't like you helping people. So therefore we're not supposed to be social afterall! And now the huge timesink it is is just pretty boring imo, just mindlessly grinding mobs till you have no soul anymore just for a sparkly weapon that's gonna be nothing more than glamour in a few patches.
Don't wanna see this next expansion tbh.

[Lumis_Arvalo]

Pagos is bad, and I legitimately believe that anyone who proclaims to "like" it is doing so out of spite towards the people complaining about how badly it's designed, and the only reason they say it's good is because they want other people to have to suffer through terrible content instead of just admitting that it sucks. It's a mish-mash of obnoxious and outdated MMO mechanics that don't work well together coupled with terrible map design and extremely odd level requirements for fast travel.

Anemos was not well-received at first but once it was more or less "solved" in a way that didn't line up with the developer's vision, it became significantly more tolerable and somewhat enjoyable to do.

People need to stop defending Pagos. It's unfun, not engaging, not difficult to do, extremely tedious and extremely boring. It's objectively bad content and the developers need to understand that so they don't repeat it again, and instead make something that is fun and engaging, and SE at least somewhat agrees that it missed the mark because they nerfed it THREE TIMES while it was the CURRENT RELIC STEP. That should give people a giant hint that even the developers understand that people don't like it because it's bad.