Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
Ummm...you do realize the expansion is called HEAVENSWARD.



No, that's the last thing I want. I want better villains. I've been to Anime Expo many times, I can't remember seeing anyone dress up as an Ascian. And I can understand why, who cares about them? Look at this poor writing, so we gotta just put up with everything that Elidibus does because we'll risk destroying the world with light if we defeat him and his cohorts. So what, if he develops a spanking machine, we gotta bend over or risk destroying the world? This writing is childish! These guys can possess every World Leader if they wanted and have every city-state fight each other to the death because they have unlimited, undefined powers at this point, and we're not allowed to stop them anymore either.
Duh I know.....I'm just differenciating between the name of the expansion and Thordan's Knights who btw ARE ALSO CALLED THE HEAVENSWARD YET YOU CONFUSED THE TWO.

Also I'm not defending the ascians by any means and beside Elidibus they're my least favorite aspect of the game so don't take me defending other elements as a defense of the ascians

Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
Honestly of all the things I will criticize this game for, the villains wouldn't even enter the top fifty for consideration. Really my only problem with villains in this game is how the writers sometimes force otherwise competent characters to be beaten to death with the idiot stick in order to add weight and menace to villains that should be able to stand up on their own. It cheapens what are otherwise decent antagonists because you can't help but sit there, groaning as the Scions bumble through something that anyone with two brain cells can piece together when just quests before they were perfectly competent. Asahi is the perfect example of this. Whatever competency Alphinaud, Alisaie, and Hien had was thrown to the side because the writers took the short and cheap way to pull a twist anyone could have seen coming from a mile away.

When it comes to the WoD, I'd say he was actually handled fairly competently by comparison. As were Elidibus, Zenos, and Gaius; and all the main villains that weren't introduced and killed off in the secondary patches between expansions. I'd also hesitate to call him a filler character because that plot line is pretty clearly unfinished and a basis for something that might come later down the road. They're pretty clearly setting something up with the World of Light given that Minfillia went with them, and SE is loathe to fully shelve that character in spite of general fan distaste.
Honestly I wasn't too fond of the scions in ARR either especially Minfillia in particular cuz I can't stand her.It was why I was glad in Heavensward they were barely there

As for the villains....again my taste is weird(and probably a garbage taste by most standards).