Putting both so context isn't lost.
So yes, there will be players that won't improve even if one was put in. That's going to exist.
In those cases, where the player feels it's justified to do 5th percentile in a farm party, we can remove them. Honestly, with what I've seen, some people get into content and aren't even playing the game. Why can do them a favor by replacing them. Instead of not playing the game in Suzaku ex, they can not play the game in Idylshire.
People aren't expecting some 90th percentile god in there. But they're probably expecting a dps to do more dps than the tank was doing in ARR. If they don't want to learn, they can stay out of parties that want things done. They can hang out with Mr. Butcher Block Only No Combo over in Snowclolak.
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