Dark Knights, Blackest Night and Holy

[shao32]

DRK is slightly worse in terms of numbers, have barely the same dps that a PLD but not his utility and don't have the dps, aoe shield and the versability of a WAR but have dark mind, Excel meaby on mass pulling on dungeons but WAR is basically on par there too.
DRK fullfill his duty's well almost like the other 2 but is like a weapon without upgrades compared to the other 2 and harder to manage.

[VCassara]

DRK is the best main tank for progression, I think. Too many CDs to use with TBN, you can take a lot of pressure from your group just to yourself.
People look too much at parsers and forget about tankbusters, aoe and auto attack damage from bosses, which DRK is excellent at absorbing them.

[Odd]

And you are correct that Fluid Aura does disrupt some of them. Kind of wish I saw more WHMs doing that, though. O.O

I will admit that when they removed the damage from Fluid Aura, I took it off my hot bar in disgust, and buried any idea of the skill deep in the dark areas of my mind.

But you have brought it back to the surface! I will be the change you want to see!

[shao32]

DRK is the best main tank for progression, I think. Too many CDs to use with TBN, you can take a lot of pressure from your group just to yourself.
People look too much at parsers and forget about tankbusters, aoe and auto attack damage from bosses, which DRK is excellent at absorbing them.

all tanks are able to take TBs pretty well, DRK only have a slight adventage when the TB is magic and the rest of cds you dont use on TB you use it against AA since DRK is weak in that field, for no mention right now PLD offer a lot of suport (with intervetion with a shield of a 50% sometimes) making WAR that bring better dps and a aoe shield being well covered, so no, DRK combinations are not really the best composition for progresion, WAR/PLD are.

[Tint]

I will admit that when they removed the damage from Fluid Aura, I took it off my hot bar in disgust, and buried any idea of the skill deep in the dark areas of my mind.

But you have brought it back to the surface! I will be the change you want to see!

You can also use it to push this annoying ranged mob into the trash pack, so you can AoE it down together with all the rest.

[DRKoftheAzure]

all tanks are able to take TBs pretty well, DRK only have a slight adventage when the TB is magic and the rest of cds you dont use on TB you use it against AA since DRK is weak in that field, for no mention right now PLD offer a lot of suport with intervetion with a shield of a 50% sometimes making WAR that bring better dps and a aoe shield being well covered, so no, DRK combinations are not really the best composition for progresion, WAR/PLD are.

Intervention is actually a 6 second Rampart or Sentinel; depending on which is used. Common mistake. If neither is active then it's 10% damage reduction for 6 seconds.

[shao32]

Intervention is actually a 6 second Rampart or Sentinel; depending on which is used. Common mistake. If neither is active then it's 10% damage reduction for 6 seconds.

That's why I say "with a shield of a 50% sometimes", 6 seconds of 10%-50% mitigation is far better that a weak shield of 10% DRK hp that can take only 1 hit.

[Cabalabob]

I hate the lack of sinergy WHM and DRK have in that situation and are the only jobs that have that kind of friction on combat

Yeah! It’s like holy magic and the dark arts are opposing forces or something! :P

Jokes aside, I love Holy, it’s like the WHM giving you hallowed ground by stopping all attacks, sure it hurts blood price and TBN but DRKs just gotta plan around it, if you have a WHM you know it’s coming, just use shadow wall or rampart first until they’re done.

That's why I say "with a shield of a 50% sometimes", 6 seconds of 10%-50% mitigation is far better that a weak shield of 10% DRK hp that can take only 1 hit.

Intervention is 10-30%, it takes HALF the effect of rampart or sentinel. e.g. 10% alone, 20% with rampart (base 10% + half rampart 10% = 20%), 30% with sentinel (base 10% + half sentinel 20% = 30%).

Still better than TBN but it’s not 50%.

[shao32]

Yeah! It’s like holy magic and the dark arts are opposing forces or something! :P

Jokes aside, I love Holy, it’s like the WHM giving you hallowed ground by stopping all attacks, sure it hurts blood price and TBN but DRKs just gotta plan around it, if you have a WHM you know it’s coming, just use shadow wall or rampart first until they’re done.

yeah i get use to deal with WHM thats not a problem for me, its more like the aoe sinergy of the DRK is the most satisfied thing of the job and saddly now in this expansion is the only thing that make you feel so good and rewarded for doing it well and WHM prevent that and its like, WHYYYYYYYY?!!, you know? ^^

Intervention is 10-30%, it takes HALF the effect of rampart or sentinel. e.g. 10% alone, 20% with rampart (base 10% + half rampart 10% = 20%), 30% with sentinel (base 10% + half sentinel 20% = 30%).

Still better than TBN but it’s not 50%.

reading betwen lines its make more sense, i dint tested properly intervetion despite i use it all the time, the description can being miss-read pretty easily, but still the point is there, is far better that TBN even on his unbuffed version saddly, thanks for the quote.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Intervention is 10-30%, it takes HALF the effect of rampart or sentinel. e.g. 10% alone, 20% with rampart (base 10% + half rampart 10% = 20%), 30% with sentinel (base 10% + half sentinel 20% = 30%).

Still better than TBN but it’s not 50%.

Oh right, Sentinel is 40% damage reduction, so Intervention would become either a 6 Rampart or Shadow Wall... and given how frequent Rampart and Sentinel are up, you might as well have DRK over PLD unless constant raid wide damage is a thing...