What is with people?

[TaranTatsuuchi]

You can't submit a report using tos breaking software though, which was my point.

They could have reported him based on his actions taken during the instance, which supposedly were disruptive enough to count as harassment in their opinion.


The links to third-party data were to show people what the person was doing, and not as something to be used to report Square Enix.

[KuuroYuuki]

They could have reported him based on his actions taken during the instance, which supposedly were disruptive enough to count as harassment in their opinion.


The links to third-party data were to show people what the person was doing, and not as something to be used to report Square Enix.

you cant report ppl because he cant play properly. OP cant play tank properly not because he want to insult the rest of party,he just dont understand how to tank.
there is no reason to ban OP if they report to GM anyway.

what will GM say if ppl who cant play properly in GM jail if that thing is reportable? "Sorry you are banned for 7 days because you are not git gut"?(joke aside)

[Vidu]

you cant report ppl because he cant play properly. OP cant play tank properly not because he want to insult the rest of party,he just dont understand how to tank.
there is no reason to ban OP if they report to GM anyway.

what will GM say if ppl who cant play properly in GM jail if that thing is reportable? "Sorry you are banned for 7 days because you are not git gut"?(joke aside)

First off: You can obviously try to report anyone for anything, if you believe there is a reason to. (and as long as you do it in "good faith", aka actually having reason to believe that there is something going on, I dont think it would cause as abuse of the report function - see something fishy? Report it - if it turns out that it wasnt a poorly programmed bot but someones cat accidently stepping all over the keyboard, it wont be an issue)

Second: The problem here is that what the OP was doing can easly be classified as griefing and harrassment - stealing aggro, spinning the boss, not reacting to anything said in partychat, wiping the party as result of all of this... thats all behaviour someone who would be intentionally griefing the party would show aswell and you cant really tell (in the moment) which is which. He wouldnt be reported because he played bad but because he played in a way that was harmful for the party.

And sorry, "he just dont understand to tank" doesnt really fly as an excuse when we're talking about the current raidtier, even if its just NM. He had at the very least 10 previous raids and probably about 20 primal-fights or so to figure out that in a group with 2 tanks, one is the MT and the other one isnt supposed to steal aggro.
I dont think its a far fetched expectation to assume that someone who has reached Alphascape 3 is familiar with that basics of their job - and I mean basics, not worldfirstclearplay. Stuff like your rotation, the difference between tank-stance and off-stance for a tank, moving out of AoEs, knowing how to handle a stack marker
OP even said that himself:

Yeah i get what you mean, as for the whole learning your class that's something you should know before you reach endgame content.

...yet, he doesnt - or at least didnt when he entered that run.

I would have believed that a person playing like that was nothing but a troll and deserved a report for griefing, instead of assuming that its just someone who doesnt know better. Someone who doesnt know better simply shouldnt be in that content (and apparently even OP agrees to that), specially not when unwilling to take advice - which circles back to harrassment, in a broad sense of the word: Chosing to stay at a level of play that ruins runs for 3-23 people.

[KaivaC]

I would have believed that a person playing like that was nothing but a troll and deserved a report for griefing, instead of assuming that its just someone who doesnt know better. Someone who doesnt know better simply should be in that content, specially not when unwilling to take advice - which circles back to harrassment, in a broad sense of the word: Chosing to stay at a level of play that ruins runs for 3-23 people.

This is the thing that completely baffles me. Ice mages and hardcasting RDMs aside, how is it possible to get to level 70 and not know something as basic as your aggro combo? And we know he didn't jump because the last time he brought up an issue and got caught, he was a level 51 paladin. Like, this is the most basic combo you get as a PLD...heck, you get those as a Gladiator. I'm legitimately lost.

[Fyce]

you cant report ppl because he cant play properly. OP cant play tank properly not because he want to insult the rest of party,he just dont understand how to tank.
there is no reason to ban OP if they report to GM anyway.

what will GM say if ppl who cant play properly in GM jail if that thing is reportable? "Sorry you are banned for 7 days because you are not git gut"?(joke aside)

You absolutly can report people if you have a strong reason to believe that they are playing in a way that is disruptive on purpose. Not using key abilities, stealing aggro, moving the boss all the time resulting in the party getting killed over and over again, and also refusing to communicate are all signs of your party being trolled. Especially in a Lv.70 8-raid environment where basic MMO etiquette is welcome.
It will be up to the Game Master to decide if that behavior was intentional, but if that player gets reported multiple times on a regular basis, there's a good chance for them to be given a warning/ban at some point.

Okay that's a bit a extreme? this wasn't intended to get this much attention, yeah i definitely am considering changing my name after this, at this point i really don't care anymore.

You started a thread craving for attention. You got what you asked for.
If you are not happy that people got back to that episode 6 months ago about you showing how bad you were (already craving for attention back then, and also hiding the full story), that people from the other viewpoint came to share their experience with you like you did, or that people are fed up with your attitude when it comes to receiving advice on how to play, then don't start a thread.

In short, don't create a thread to get people's attention if you only want to cherry pick what kind of attention you get.
So next time, just report if you think it's justified, and move on. No need to come to the forums.

[xMysticx]

You absolutly can report people if you have a strong reason to believe that they are playing in a way that is disruptive on purpose. Not using key abilities, stealing aggro, moving the boss all the time resulting in the party getting killed over and over again, and also refusing to communicate are all signs of your party being trolled. Especially in a Lv.70 8-raid environment where basic MMO etiquette is welcome.
It will be up to the Game Master to decide if that behavior was intentional, but if that player gets reported multiple times on a regular basis, there's a good chance for them to be given a warning/ban at some point.

You started a thread craving for attention. You got what you asked for.
If you are not happy that people got back to that episode 6 months ago about you showing how bad you were (already craving for attention back then, and also hiding the full story), that people from the other viewpoint came to share their experience with you like you did, or that people are fed up with your attitude when it comes to receiving advice on how to play, then don't start a thread.

In short, don't create a thread to get people's attention if you only want to cherry pick what kind of attention you get.
So next time, just report if you think it's justified, and move on. No need to come obsessed to the forums.

if Making a reddit post is any better drawing more attention it's like all of you are obsessed with me, and to be fair i'm not too happy about my name not being blured, at least i was kind of enough to blur the persons name when they sent the message, after taking a day off the forums and also researching info about my class etc, all i ask now is to just let this thread die off there's not point to continueing it.

[Fyce]

if Making a reddit post is any better drawing more attention it's like all of you are obsessed with me, and to be fair i'm not too happy about my name not being blured, at least i was kind of enough to blur the persons name when they sent the message, after taking a day off the forums and also researching info about my class etc, all i ask now is to just let this thread die off there's not point to continueing it.

You already knew what was going to happen. You even said this 6 months ago on a similar situation.
Besides, trying to blur your name hoping that nobody would get the full story, who you are and what you did in the past is not something that plays in your favor. In fact, it makes things worse when people discover the truth.
You made this thread to get the community's approval to blame someone for being mean to you. If you can't accept that you are also going to be put in the spotlight as well, then don't create these threads.

Again, don't seek people's attention if you are not prepared to get criticism for what you did, regardless of what you want to complain about. You can't just expect people to go your way and pity you, without having them trying to find the full story to see if pity is indeed deserved or not.

Remember it next time you feel the need to start a drama on the forums.

Edit: Not gonna do another post.

I never was griefing or harassing

What is being said is that this is how other people feel when they play with you. And since you are being unresponsive to people telling you what to do or not do, it reinforce their feeling. And when people start seeing you basically as a troll, while you claim that you aren't one, then it's time for you to consider the fact that you are doing something very wrong for them to think that way about you.

[YukinoAmidala]

if Making a reddit post is any better drawing more attention it's like all of you are obsessed with me, and to be fair i'm not too happy about my name not being blured, at least i was kind of enough to blur the persons name when they sent the message, after taking a day off the forums and also researching info about my class etc, all i ask now is to just let this thread die off there's not point to continueing it.

Even if you blurred out your name in the screenshot the OF still displayed your name for us all to see until you removed that character from your profile. The reddit post was made because this entire thread turned into something hilarious, mostly due to your denial. You put yourself out here for everyone to see trying to get pity over a single kick from df and are now upset that the whole story came out.

You could have chosen to simply report the person who insulted you and moved on with your life but you decided to post it here. You got called out and immediately got defensive, refusing help from those who offered it acting as if something as irrelevant as player comms somehow equates to skill and then once you realized that no one was on your side you throw out the big bad word "elitist" and continue to act like the victim. You would have been better off keeping quiet once the full story came out if you didn't want to accept any advice from those nice enough to offer it to you.