How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[Kleeya]

The answer to the op's question is so obvious, when his thread is surrounded by http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-in-this-game and http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...is-with-people XD

[KaivaC]

The answer to the op's question is so obvious, when his thread is surrounded by http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-in-this-game and http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...is-with-people XD

One of those posts is iffy because OP cried foul once. The other one was due to player error.

Both of these have happened, and will happen, without a parser, so these aren't really answers to my question.

[Kleeya]

One of those posts is iffy because OP cried foul once. The other one was due to player error.

Both of these have happened, and will happen, without a parser, so these aren't really answers to my question.

Did you even open the two threads to read that even if they were not performed well, the two ops have been subject to rude behavior by the people judging their performance ?

Giving more tools to everyone to judge others will only end up in even more toxicity. "It will happen without a parser anyway" is a wrong argument. You are saying that like if having tons of players who actually dont even know what a parser is, getting suddenly access to one isn't gonna stir up even more trouble.

These two threads are in fact highly relevant to the answer of your question.

[KaivaC]

Did you even open the two threads to read that even if they were not performed well, the two ops have been subject to rude behavior by the people judging their performance ?

Giving more tools to everyone to judge others will only end up in even more toxicity. "It will happen without a parser anyway" is a wrong argument. You are saying that like if having tons of players who actually dont even know what a parser is, getting suddenly access to one isn't gonna stir up even more trouble.

These two threads are in fact highly relevant to the answer of your question.

Yup, I've been following those two threads with some mild interest. You don't need a parser for those kinds of incidents to occur, and they typically happen every day somewhere in FFXIV. Not taking sides in the PLD one, but I don't need a parser to be annoyed when a tank is constantly turning the O11N boss. Especially when they do it just as I am about to hit my Trick Attack. Let alone other players who have been ingrained to expect N/S positioning, and the boss is suddenly turned SE and then you see the cast bar for Starboard.

Yes indeed, perhaps some idiots will decide to be more open with their harassment. And then that's the the report function is for to get them out of this game. I doubt it will become as widespread as some people continually claim that FFXIV will become. Especially since most of the time, you're likely already being parsed anyways if you step foot into any of the current lvl 70 content.

[OurMom]

Did you even open the two threads to read that even if they were not performed well, the two ops have been subject to rude behavior by the people judging their performance ?

The OP in one admitted to messing up and considered the person snapped at them over one mistake they were probably doing low dps. It's not "judging their performance" if they are infact messing up.

The second doesn't even have basic abilities on their hotbar. What is it with this be nice to people that can be bothered to do the most basic of things?

I have seen people zombie their way through fights and when they get back up and still do their proper rotation, yes people are annoyed but they don't kick them. It's when the constant dying is paired with low dps do they get kicked or told to "uninstall". You know what could help with that? A parser so the person can see they're doing less damage than a pld.

[SenorPatty]

Did you even open the two threads to read that even if they were not performed well, the two ops have been subject to rude behavior by the people judging their performance ?

Giving more tools to everyone to judge others will only end up in even more toxicity. "It will happen without a parser anyway" is a wrong argument. You are saying that like if having tons of players who actually dont even know what a parser is, getting suddenly access to one isn't gonna stir up even more trouble.

These two threads are in fact highly relevant to the answer of your question.

From where are we going to get more toxicity, the six other players who were in those parties in those threads or the same person who happened to be jerk?

If the act of kicking someone is toxic itself because that's how someone feels, then guess what? Toxicity of that nature is plenty rampant already. All you have to do is mess up mechanics enough time to get booted. Don't need a parser to help being "toxic" with that. Dps phase not being cleared? Disband, don't need parser to help being toxic with that again. I can bring countless of examples that don't need a parser to help being toxic when it comes to kicking people out.

If you want to argue that parsers will corrupt people's behaviours into being openly or subtly toxic and thus quantifying the amount of toxicity to increased numbers, guess what? People don't change easily. Jerks who like being jerks will continue to be jerks. Civil people who like to be civil will continue to be civil, parser or no parser. However, like any human behaviour, prolonged exposure to positive or negative experiences can change people's way of thinking. You could say parsers can bring out the worst in people but in the same vein, it can bring out the best.

Parsers are not one-sided tools like anti-parser people like to make them to be.

[Zephera]

Did you even open the two threads to read that even if they were not performed well, the two ops have been subject to rude behavior by the people judging their performance ?

It's actually pretty rude to not put in a reasonable amount of effort in a team game as well.