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  1. #31
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deminia View Post
    My issue here is that there should not be a secondary part in the first place - not for a person only playing 1 character at a time. The base fee for a game subscription should include the ability to play the game already in the base fee.

    In other games I have played there was a one time fee for the software, followed by a monthly fee for service (which included at least one character in that fee). If I wanted additional features, characters, bonuses, or expansions, then there was an extra fee for those optional things. This was also true in FFXI.
    Then your fee, at normal price, is 12.99. How is this difficult? Is it because they explain how they break down the billing? I actually see that as better since they are explaining how they do it.

    Basically it seems you want "Base Fee" to ALWAYS mean the same thing. If i'm not mistaken, in FFXI you could turn on/off character slots when you chose, and only paid for the ones you had on. It's the same thing, but instead of telling you how they do the billing they just say the "Base Fee" includes a character slot to appease you for whatever reason. It's the same. You know what you have to pay if you choose to play 1 or more characters.
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    Last edited by ispano; 12-13-2011 at 10:09 AM.

  2. #32
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    Ilisidi Malguri
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    MMM... I'm pretty sure FFXI when you paid your sub fee it included your first character slot so If I made "Hank" as my first character I always had to pay for "Hank" no matter what.

    Each extra character cost 1.00 but I always had to pay for "Hank" even if i never played him.
    No, you actually could have deactivated Hank and just paid your 12.95 for Sam, or 12.95+1 for Sam and Jill. You never had to pay for Hank, if you didn't want to play him anymore.
    There was no first character included in the fee, there was only one character included in the 12.95 fee, which could have been in position 16 on the list.
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    Last edited by Ilisidi; 12-13-2011 at 10:10 AM.

  3. #33
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    Deminia Brellenwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    MMM... I'm pretty sure FFXI when you paid your sub fee it included your first character slot so If I made "Hank" as my first character I always had to pay for "Hank" no matter what.

    Each extra character cost 1.00 but I always had to pay for "Hank" even if i never played him.
    Nope - you just changed your active character and deactivated the other characters. Your base fee included 1 active character at a time, and you could choose from any of the slots you wanted. At least from 2005 onward.
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  4. #34
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    Nadien Kirisame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deminia View Post
    Nope - you just changed your active character and deactivated the other characters. Your base fee included 1 active character at a time, and you could choose from any of the slots you wanted. At least from 2005 onward.
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/envi/charge.html

    the cat is bemused =-.-=
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  5. #35
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    Zanfire Leoz
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    Sargatanas
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    SE should have never designed it this way, it only confuses people (and it will to future players im sure). What made them think not just making 1 character slot and an ID all one amount is baffling. Someone needs to get fired from whoever directs the payment stuff.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    SE should have never designed it this way, it only confuses people (and it will to future players im sure). What made them think not just making 1 character slot and an ID all one amount is baffling. Someone needs to get fired from whoever directs the payment stuff.
    Hmmm confused some maybe but not all... I was never confused by it at all... maybe that is just me...

    the cat is bemused =-.-=
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by NadienKirisame View Post
    Hmmm confused some maybe but not all... I was never confused by it at all... maybe that is just me...

    the cat is bemused =-.-=
    when a payment system is confusing people....anyone....thats just sad.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    when a payment system is confusing people....anyone....thats just sad.
    Now now Zanfire... you read these forums really look at most of the threads out there... now I am not speaking for or about everyone here but a lot of them get confused looking at their own shadow...

    the cat is bemused =-.-=
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    when a payment system is confusing people....anyone....thats just sad.
    Honestly, if it confuses them, then they have bigger issues.
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  10. #40
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    Masamune
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    The payment system isn't confusing, is the ppl are confusing, is straight facts that;

    *This is for the period of 6th Jan 2012 -> End of V1.XX.
    1) Base Service (Only account no characters) : 6.99
    2) Character : 3.00, any extra will be another 3.00.

    You get 1 account (6.99) + 1 character (3.00) = 9.99, if you wish to get more character add extra 1 character (3.00).

    Why they do this?
    Because of the sole reason of having only 1 character to play all class/jobs, because of this systems, they implement this type of payment system, and to not cheat in a way, they lay out the payment details like above.

    so for default 9.99 is actually " Account + 1 Character ".
    But ofcourse for the duration of this 7th Umbral Era, you'll get 2 free retainers, anymore will be adding 1.00.
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