Can the explosions on Suzaku be just a little more forgiving?

[MoroMurasaki]

It took monumentally bad lag for this to become a real issue for me during EX last night. Those who play RDM and have lag spikes know the hell that is your dualcast proc being added to your buffs after you begin casting your next spell, effectively causing you to begin hardcasting the spell you expected to instant cast. It's also a lot of lag.

Up until my lag reached that point I was fine, once that happened I was toast.

That being said while that was going on we ran another FC member through Suzaku normal and I was still fine to dodge the platforms.

Tl;dr - the amount of lag you need to effect your dodging ability in normal mode would render the game basically unplayable in my experience. I think if you're having trouble with platforms or balls in normal you've likely just got to respond a bit quicker, putting it off on lag is a bit of a cop out based on what I've seen.

[Risvertasashi]

Tl;dr - the amount of lag you need to effect your dodging ability in normal mode would render the game basically unplayable in my experience. I think if you're having trouble with platforms or balls in normal you've likely just got to respond a bit quicker, putting it off on lag is a bit of a cop out based on what I've seen.

Nah.



This is with 35ms ping to SE's servers. Something's going on there besides latency, and it's not just a cop out.

(For bonus points... note the rubber banding. Even when the game suddenly shifts me backwards, I'm still not in the area that exploded)

[Vaer]

Nah.

If I tried to dodge from that far in the panel I would get hit every time. (My ping is 100-120 from east coast). Instead, I sidestep next to the crease. If you are doing the ring around to dodge instead of 4-1-4-1 you have to either sprint or use a tighter rotation closer to the hole in the middle, like Construct 7.

[Risvertasashi]

If I tried to dodge from that far in the panel I would get hit every time. (My ping is 100-120 from east coast). Instead, I sidestep next to the crease. If you are doing the ring around to dodge instead of 4-1-4-1 you have to either sprint or use a tighter rotation closer to the hole in the middle, like Construct 7.

Sprinting would be a death sentence here; I didn't particularly feel like going off the edge.

Sidestepping is what I do when it's not paired with the forced movement mechanic, but even that isn't reliable. Works 90%ish of the time for me, until the game suddenly decides "not this time". Others have reported lower success rates, so there does seem to be some correlation with latency, but the tuning also seems to simply be off.

[Vaer]

Sprinting would be a death sentence here; I didn't particularly feel like going off the edge.

Sidestepping is what I do when it's not paired with the forced movement mechanic, but even that isn't reliable. Works 90%ish of the time for me, until the game suddenly decides "not this time". Others have reported lower success rates, so there does seem to be some correlation with latency, but the tuning also seems to simply be off.

The mindjack + x4? Starting on the middle of the 3rd/4th tile is how I've always done it and haven't gotten hit (I end up on 1/2 tile after it blows up) Can't really tell with the spliced gif.

[Risvertasashi]

The mindjack + x4? Starting on the middle of the 3rd/4th tile is how I've always done it and haven't gotten hit (I end up on 1/2 tile after it blows up) Can't really tell with the spliced gif.

Gif isn't spliced. It's just a straight clip from the encounter.

Anyways, that's what I do. 90% of the time, it works every time.

[Vaer]

Gif isn't spliced. It's just a straight clip from the encounter.

Anyways, that's what I do. 90% of the time, it works every time.

Can't tell if it's the 2nd rune is what I mean (the first rune is gone I guess) by spliced. It looks like you started on the 2nd, which would be a no go for me. Usually there's a way to do 3/4 -> 1/2 no matter the direction I get so I just do that and even with my 100-120 ping I dodge it every time if I do it properly.

Could it be a bit better? Sure. But there's a way to do it at 100% even for people who have bad ping.

[Stormfur]

My experience looks just like risvertasashi's.

[Sylvina]

I've been hit many times while well off the quadrant which was exploding. its glitchy atm.

[Risvertasashi]

Usually there's a way to do 3/4 -> 1/2 no matter the direction I get so I just do that and even with my 100-120 ping I dodge it every time if I do it properly.

That is what I try to do. Maybe I didn't do it in this particular instance if I was too far away, or such.

edit: I reviewed the full VOD. I was going from sector 3 to sector 1. So I was using the recommended strategy here.

All the same, though, if the game shows that I am out of an AOE by a wide margin and with time to spare, I don't think I should be hit by it. It's basically a throwback to this:


And it's not like SE's incapable of doing anything about this. The last time I recall having issues like this was Titan pre-tickrate adjust. Susano, Byakko, Tsukuyomi etc etc don't have issues like this, even though some of the timings are very tight. The savage raids don't do this. So why do Suzuku explosions have to do this?