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  1. #17311
    Player
    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Feb 2014
    Location
    Gridania
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    1,363
    Character
    Thyn'a Sindyrl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Tanks still taking tank busters in DPS stance, without ANY COOL DOWNS, getting killed by an auto attack right after and then blaming the struggling healers who are trying to heal everyone else too because it's new content and no one is geared up yet.... Ok yeah I'll just keep spamming Cure II on you and run out of MP cause your dps is all that matters.

    Edit: I was gearing my healer on an alt that has her tank geared, and I really didn't wanna tank cause It makes me nervous as all heck. but it was taking longer to gear than I thought it would so I said YOLO, and what do you know.

    Not a single wipe.
    (2)
    Last edited by Anarnee; 09-21-2018 at 02:28 PM.

  2. 09-21-2018 08:53 AM

  3. #17312
    Player
    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Sep 2015
    Location
    Ul'Dah
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    5,377
    Character
    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Not even a week old and I've already kicked someone from Alphascape. Off to a good start!

    What happened? Friend and I were spamming O11N for drops. While most of our runs were relatively decent, we had one instance where I was getting dangerously low on HP repeatedly. At one point, I flat out died to autos and on our third attempt, I had to pop both Vengeance and Rampart just to survive the buster + autos. Even with my friend spamming heals (she was on Astro), it often wound up with her having to choose between me or the party.

    Where was her co-healer? Good question! They literally weren't healing or DPSing. In fact, they spent the majority of the run flailing around or just standing still. And the worst part was they weren't new. When I finally called them out, they chimed back "Guess I should heal the tank..."

    (9)

  4. #17313
    Player
    SannaR's Avatar
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    Character
    Sanna Rosewood
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Wow. At least they weren't like the healers you run into where they're almost always at max mp and then yell at the other healer for being a slacker.?
    (0)

  5. #17314
    Player
    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    May 2016
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    Cosmic Black Hole of a Hot Pocket
    Posts
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    Character
    Vice Shark
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Ah yes, the players who join as a role but can't be arsed to fulfill that role properly. Yesterday, I queued up for 70 roulette as tank and ended up in temple of the fist with bard, smn and sch. I'm thinking "oh sweet, everything's gonna melt like butter".

    I couldn't have been more wrong and the culprit was the bard of the non barding variety.

    After we clear the first moss wall, I start mass pulling. I reach the next wall, pull up my defenses, pop IR and my other war buff and let it rip. The pack takes so long to die that I manage to pop IR twice, which usually only happens in boss fights. Confused, I first ask myself if the party isn't up to snuff or maybe its a gear thing. Nope, gear's fine. I move onwards.

    We reach the first boss and that's when I notice what's wrong: no song buff, no FR from bard. Caustic bite is manually re-applied every 5-6 secs. Stormbite finally shows up a full 30 secs after the fight starts. We finally manage to down the boss and I stop to type this: "Hey (Player Name), can you play songs in every fight from here on out please?".

    We move onto the next zone. I pull the two horse monsters and notice the brd hasn't popped in yet. I almost think he was maybe busy typing in something but he finally shows up and to my surprise, he plays a song. I'm thinking "alright, now we can get the melting started". We clear the mobs and I proceed to pull all the stone wall mobs to the next closed point.

    There was no melting.

    The bard plays one song, no FR. The buff runs out...and that's it, no more encores. Meanwhile the poor SMN and SCH, who clearly are putting everything into killing things almost run out of resources. I sigh and we make our way to next boss. Same thing. One song played, caustic bite re-applications every 5-6 secs, stormbite comes late, yadda yadda.

    After that, I stop mass pulling and almost feel like I should apologize to the SMN and SCH for making them work extra when it's clear to me that we're a party of 3 and a half. I pull one pack at a time, we reach final boss and we clear. At that point, I wanted to tell the bard that if this was a job they leveled in potd or HoH, they should start practicing from low leveled duties like brayflox and move upwards or just have some one on one sessions with dummies and see how songs work. But the healer says tyfp and I just abandon the notion. I say tyfp as well, exit and see that I got 2 comms.

    Honestly, all this made me think about forum discussions when we're talking about player skill levels and what we're expecting. I've never entered an expert or 70 dgn duty and expect savage level performance but you have tools, tools that if you don't use them to a certain degree, you'll be playing at a level that's either very base or lower. Foregoing at nearly all times the use of these skills means everyone else is going to be making up your part equal to the level of playstyle detriment you choose to engage in.

    To the smn and healer who were in my party, sorry for not noticing sooner and not adjusting the pace sooner as well. You guys did great.
    (4)
    Last edited by SenorPatty; 09-22-2018 at 08:14 AM. Reason: grammar. really gotta stop writing full paragraphs on my phone
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  6. #17315
    Player
    Tavira's Avatar
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    Character
    Tavira Tavi
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I just ran a Hell's Kier run, had at least one new person doing it so I thought to myself 'Okay, this will be an easy run we got 7 people who has done this before, can't possibly wipe!' And immediately on the first group of phoenixes, no one attacks their birds besides me cause I was samurai atm and when I was half way done killing it everyone started to kill their own birds but then we wiped when it did Ashes. After the respawn I then thought to myself 'There is no way these people forgot about basic mechanics right? you kill the adds, dodge the aoe's, rinse and repeat, but not this party. Before we even get to the DDR portion of the trial someone dies and gets revived, and when DDR starts, someone intentionally looks in the wrong direction and started to feed the fire birb the blue balls of death. And to make it even sweeter for me, after the bird turns into a hot chick, the team starts dying cause they decide to stand in the pizza slices when they explode and get hit by aoe's or in the case of our RDM, jumped off after his combo which was beautiful to watch.

    I swear its like people are just terrible in following mechanics, no wonder Eorzea doesn't have cars yet, cause no one listens to the mechanics XD
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  7. #17316
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Character
    Boo Box
    World
    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tavira View Post
    I just ran a Hell's Kier run, had at least one new person doing it so I thought to myself 'Okay, this will be an easy run we got 7 people who has done this before, can't possibly wipe!' And immediately on the first group of phoenixes, no one attacks their birds besides me cause I was samurai atm and when I was half way done killing it everyone started to kill their own birds but then we wiped when it did Ashes. After the respawn I then thought to myself 'There is no way these people forgot about basic mechanics right? you kill the adds, dodge the aoe's, rinse and repeat, but not this party. Before we even get to the DDR portion of the trial someone dies and gets revived, and when DDR starts, someone intentionally looks in the wrong direction and started to feed the fire birb the blue balls of death. And to make it even sweeter for me, after the bird turns into a hot chick, the team starts dying cause they decide to stand in the pizza slices when they explode and get hit by aoe's or in the case of our RDM, jumped off after his combo which was beautiful to watch.

    I swear its like people are just terrible in following mechanics, no wonder Eorzea doesn't have cars yet, cause no one listens to the mechanics XD
    To be fair, the content is now going on 4 days old. I've cleared the fight once myself, but there are still several mechanics in the fight I'm fuzzy on, and I imagine there will be something I forget on my 2nd run. There are probably a lot of people in that same boat. A bit of patience and understanding goes a long way when content is new
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  8. #17317
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    May 2018
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    Character
    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I got threatened with a vote kick for singing the Great Mighty Poo song while waiting for the cutscene on St Mocianne's final boss.
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  9. #17318
    Player
    Frizze's Avatar
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    Character
    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    To be fair, the content is now going on 4 days old. I've cleared the fight once myself, but there are still several mechanics in the fight I'm fuzzy on, and I imagine there will be something I forget on my 2nd run. There are probably a lot of people in that same boat. A bit of patience and understanding goes a long way when content is new
    This^. I did the fight once on tuesday(first thing i unlocked and finished actually). There were a couple mechanics that im not sure i was doing right, and i havent been back. I mean, yeah id have been killing the adds - you almost always kill the adds. But i wouldnt be a flawless performer in that party either. I think i got exploded twice in that first fight before i figured out what i was supposed to be watching(and even then, i couldnt always match those symbols in the heat of battle - need more practice i guess).
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  10. #17319
    Player
    van_arn's Avatar
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    Jul 2011
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    1,960
    Character
    Van Arn
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I got threatened with a vote kick for singing the Great Mighty Poo song while waiting for the cutscene on St Mocianne's final boss.
    It would have been worth getting kicked for that.
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  11. #17320
    Player
    Leadleaf's Avatar
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    Character
    Erilsa Leadleaf
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    But did you carry on as the death cs played?
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