Buff Mist Dragon plz

[Maeka]

In my mind this is fairly far down on the "difficulty" meter - roughly a tier 7 fight(those top tiers being Ultimate, Hard Savage, Easy Savage, Extreme, Alliance, Raid, this... there would be further tiers below this, though ive never thought to count how many). Am i wrong about that? Selling Misty short? Time will tell i guess.

I don't really think rating it against other kinds of content is really fair. This is a Normal MSQ Dungeon, and when rated against other Normal MSQ Dungeons, it's very high up on the list, if not #1 in terms of raw difficulty, amongst all MSQ 4-Man Dungeon bosses. I can't think of any MSQ dungeon that is anywhere near as difficult, and it is certainly harder than Swallow's Compass (which is an optional dungeon) and easily harder than anything Castrum Abania or Drowned City has.

Heck, I would say it's even harder than Baelsar's Wall, or even Keeper of the Lake.

Both of those had instant-death mechanics, sure, and Mist Dragon does not have anything instant-death, however, it's AoEs with the Stun+DoT+Big Damage might as well be as the damage is usually catastrophic enough to cause a wipe unless you got either a RDM or SMN in the group to help with raises and that's to say nothing about if someone happens to accidentally nail the rest of the group with the targeted AoE right before the unavoidable AoE hits.

[Frizze]

I don't really think rating it against other kinds of content is really fair. This is a Normal MSQ Dungeon, and when rated against other Normal MSQ Dungeons, it's very high up on the list, if not #1 in terms of raw difficulty, amongst all MSQ 4-Man Dungeon bosses. I can't think of any MSQ dungeon that is anywhere near as difficult, and it is certainly harder than Swallow's Compass (which is an optional dungeon) and easily harder than anything Castrum Abania or Drowned City has.

Heck, I would say it's even harder than Baelsar's Wall, or even Keeper of the Lake.

Both of those had instant-death mechanics, sure, and Mist Dragon does not have anything instant-death, however, it's AoEs with the Stun+DoT+Big Damage might as well be as the damage is usually catastrophic enough to cause a wipe unless you got either a RDM or SMN in the group to help with raises and that's to say nothing about if someone happens to accidentally nail the rest of the group with the targeted AoE right before the unavoidable AoE hits.

And thats fair, but the person i was quoting said the person who had an easy time either went with players who adapt quickly or players who had cleared much more difficult encounters and specifically called out ultimate - you know, the hardest thing in the game. If your first thought on having a rough fight is to compare it to the hardest thing there is, then my instinct is to try to add a little perspective. As for where this falls on the story dungeon difficulty curve, id guess its probly somewhere in the top 5. Keeper still gives people trouble now, i cant imagine(and didnt play when) how much rougher it was before everyone was gear capped. Doma and Vault are the dungeons you read the most complaints about(usually from healers who cant keep undergeared tanks standing). Would Baelsars be the last one in that top 5? Its a good enough answer. I do think that in a month a lot of people are going to look back at these threads and laugh at how much we over-reacted. And for those keeping score(so... no one), dungeon came up in roulette last night. Went in alone, got matched with a healer who had run the dungeon before and a tank and dragoon who hadnt. The only "tips" either of us gave the two of them(they didnt ask) was that it was an easy dungeon up til the final boss. Tank pulled small(we could have handled more, but im not starting a fight over that), zipped through the dungeon. Got to Misty, cleared in one shot. The dragoon was the guy who couldnt dodge this time, and sure enough we pulled through(with a clutch final 5 seconds from me to barely avoid a second set of divebombs).