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  1. #31
    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You both need to chill out a bit. Everyone has their own personal preferences when it comes to decorating. There are no standards that have to be met to be considered a decorator. There doesn't have to be a minimum number of items use nor a tight limit. Things don't have to placed only in small groupings anymore than every square inch has to be packed. It's what you personally want in your space that matters.

    not_ya_wify's bathroom counter came out extremely nice considering the items we have to work with in the game. If you can do better for a bathroom counter, share screenshots with us. It would also be nice to see the screenshots of the entire room in your large that you decorated using only 17 items.
    I want anything with a sink on it.

    Oh a table top item like this:

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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    If you can “fill” an entire floor with 15 items, I would assume that you’re not a decorator. This is an issue for people who put a lot of time and effort into decorating.
    I did not say I filled a floor with 15 items, I said I would need around 15 to -finish- it. Maybe try to read my post properly before unleashing your housing elitism at me.

    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    For example my bathroom sink here takes 26 items alone (not counting the partitions)
    Let's not suggest that the amount of slots used is a direct indication of decorative quality. Decorating isn't as simple as that.

    All this aside I think we can all agree that mansions are in a dire need of increased furnishing slots far more than any other type of housing.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 09-21-2018 at 02:50 AM.

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    I need them to increase the amount of items on the OUTSIDE before they do more on the inside. The limit on smalls is too restricting with the way the plots are laid out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    I need them to increase the amount of items on the OUTSIDE before they do more on the inside. The limit on smalls is too restricting with the way the plots are laid out.
    I completely agree but I can see why this is more difficult than increasing the interior slots. While outside every garden in the area needs to be rendered and that's way more work for the server to do than just the inside of a house. I am hoping to see exterior slots added in 5.0.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    I need them to increase the amount of items on the OUTSIDE before they do more on the inside. The limit on smalls is too restricting with the way the plots are laid out.
    This is also personal opinion; I'm certainly not going to argue with anyone who wants more outside (and I still feel like they can adjust how aetherytes, stables, and mailboxes are counted - yes, aetherytes do count towards the item #, I checked) but personally if I had to pick more inside v more outside I'd pick inside every time. It just depends on who has what visions for their yards/interiors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You both need to chill out a bit. Everyone has their own personal preferences when it comes to decorating. There are no standards that have to be met to be considered a decorator. There doesn't have to be a minimum number of items use nor a tight limit. Things don't have to placed only in small groupings anymore than every square inch has to be packed. It's what you personally want in your space that matters.

    not_ya_wify's bathroom counter came out extremely nice considering the items we have to work with in the game. If you can do better for a bathroom counter, share screenshots with us. It would also be nice to see the screenshots of the entire room in your large that you decorated using only 17 items.
    Not really, only give a commendation on the lightning, the walls around is flat and dull and show next to know taste or creativity... a more simple approach would raise the arms much more from people in general and amount of making a simple thing is a total waste of inventory space in a house... does not show creativity but lack of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Not really, only give a commendation on the lightning, the walls around is flat and dull and show next to know taste or creativity... a more simple approach would raise the arms much more from people in general and amount of making a simple thing is a total waste of inventory space in a house... does not show creativity but lack of it.
    Taste is subjective. Creativity is subjective.

    You're not making a good case for how you believe things should be done is better than what not_ya_wify did. Try posting some screenshots of what you've done to argue your case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Not really, only give a commendation on the lightning, the walls around is flat and dull and show next to know taste or creativity... a more simple approach would raise the arms much more from people in general and amount of making a simple thing is a total waste of inventory space in a house... does not show creativity but lack of it.
    Part of the fun of the housing game for a lot of people is seeing what they can make out of what we have. You're 100, 1,000 times entitled to your own opinion about what you do or don't like about housing styles - but trashing someone else's style, especially in a thread that's not even about style, is crass and isn't going to win you any friends. Your preferred mode of decoration may be to make the most with as little as you can, and that's fine, too, but that's your preference. That's why there's thousands of different housing styles in the world; one person may like stark minimalism, with its clean lines; another may revel in the victorian townhome, full of knicknacks and oddities.

    I don't get why you feel the hostility is necessary, but it's enough to say that you don't agree with an increase in housing items and leave it there. And if you don't feel that way, then I can't imagine what your goal here is other than than to simply insult someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Part of the fun of the housing game for a lot of people is seeing what they can make out of what we have. You're 100, 1,000 times entitled to your own opinion about what you do or don't like about housing styles - but trashing someone else's style, especially in a thread that's not even about style, is crass and isn't going to win you any friends. Your preferred mode of decoration may be to make the most with as little as you can, and that's fine, too, but that's your preference. That's why there's thousands of different housing styles in the world; one person may like stark minimalism, with its clean lines; another may revel in the victorian townhome, full of knicknacks and oddities.

    I don't get why you feel the hostility is necessary, but it's enough to say that you don't agree with an increase in housing items and leave it there. And if you don't feel that way, then I can't imagine what your goal here is other than than to simply insult someone else.
    I agree, and got nothing against people saying stuff and the likes as long as it do not get personal in anyway, stating the same though that amount of items needed is not a sign of creativity either, but a lack of can be the same way of looking at things, either way you would be welcome to take a look at my own house in it's current state of always moving around in the mist ward 13, plot 15, Server Zodiark, got some new ideas to try out as well, though I don't consider myself pro in decorating or anything that is up for others to judge, as would be difficult to do that myself, but my goal is to try and make it done with as few items as possible needed for this and that and it is a constant battle trying to make it simpler but better looking as it is as certainly could use +2 item spaces elsewhere and the likes and so goes on the battle of trying to win over the 400 item limit for good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I think the big problem for us as players is the drop in the item to space ratio is fairly dramatic instead of gradual, especially for large houses. The problem for SE is likely item loading since that's their concern with the outdoor ward areas and interiors aren't likely to be exempt from it.
    I only quoted a small amount of that post, but if you haven't read it you should! I can't imagine how long it took to go to each house and count the tiles on all the floors and figure out the space for each house. I'm sure it was quite a bit of work!

    To Jojoya - Thank you so much for this! I really don't think SE has considered how much extra space we get moving from an FC room/ apartment to a cottage to a house to a mansion. Your numbers really show how much of a difference there is, and why it can be so hard to decorate the larger spaces.

    Also - /bump ;-)
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