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  1. #17221
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Here we go again. If people are trying to convince me to quit, they're doing a damn good job at pushing me towards that direction. I've had more friendly experiences in Anemos than I've had in the DF lately.

    Went into the normal raid roulette and got Exdeath. First phase went fine. Everything was all good, until the next phase after he knocks off the wall barriers. Vacuum wave came up, and being on BLM for this, I popped Surecast. Next thing you know, we lost our main tank and both healers. I see the RDM is about halfway on his mana so I mana shifted him thinking that he'll rez since he's the only one that can.

    But nothing. We wipe.

    On the restart, the RDM asks me why I didn't rez. I told him I can't rez, and he proceeded to explain to me to look in my role actions and set resurrection. I said to him again that BLM didn't have a rez.

    One of the healers told him the same thing. RDM said that they can't play with a caster that can't rez, and I was kicked shortly after that.
    @.@

    I'm not actually that astonished by the RDM's ignorance, I've seen weirder nonsense spouted by people at all levels of content, but...

    How... in... the world.. did that vote kick go through???

    Do people just automatically yes on any kick that pops up without bothering to look up the context... or was that particular group, for even a moment, convinced that BLM can rez, on top of believing that, even if they could, it would be BLM's responsibility over an RDM who can Dualcast it with no cooldown?
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 09-17-2018 at 01:19 PM.

  2. #17222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    @.@

    I'm not actually that astonished by the RDM's ignorance, I've seen weirder nonsense spouted by people at all levels of content, but...

    How... in... the world.. did that vote kick go through???

    Do people just automatically yes on any kick that pops up without bothering to look up the context... or was that particular group, for even a moment, convinced that BLM can rez, on top believing that, even if they could, it would be BLM's responsibility over an RDM who can Dualcast it with no cooldown?
    5 of them were from the same server. Dunno if they were from the same FC and I'm nowhere near my ps4 to check. I'll check on Tuesday.
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  3. #17223
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post

    On the restart, the RDM asks me why I didn't rez. I told him I can't rez, and he proceeded to explain to me to look in my role actions and set resurrection. I said to him again that BLM didn't have a rez.

    One of the healers told him the same thing. RDM said that they can't play with a caster that can't rez, and I was kicked shortly after that.
    That RDM is either a dolt or trolling. I dunno how that vote kick even went through, unless it was a pre-made.
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  4. #17224
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    Either way it's awful! I'm so sorry you keep running into THAT kind of people ._. Especially in normal roulette content, that's just... that makes me so angry. If those squads of FC friends are so deathly serious about being top-ranked... o4n... uhhh... crystalloid farmers? Sure... let's go with that. Then they should be kicking each other out for apparently expecting a single pug dps to carry them.

    Please don't let it affect you or make you think like you are in the wrong. The objective truth is that in normal roulette content, a single DPS has no power, and therefore no responsibility, to singlehandedly cause failure or ensure success. If any normal-level raid or dungeon fails, it is 30% likely to be tanks' or healers' fault and 69.(99)% due to collective failure to deal with mechanics (it generally takes half the group dying to something they should have dodged to seriously disrupt a run). In the impossibly rare event that win or wipe somehow rests upon the shoulders of one NIN or BLM... then the other 7 people should probably pause their Netflix for 5 minutes.
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  5. #17225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnykit View Post
    I remember the day that Rabanastre came out and Hashmal was by far the toughest fight in that 24-man in my opinion. I died multiple times when he jumped away and dashed through the arena. I never noticed that one of his arms was on fire and you had to be on the side that wasn't til someone pointed out to me.
    Rabanastre was my first Alliance Raid. Imagine my reaction running into Hashmal and finding a boss that throws out instant death like candy coming off of mostly easy Story Mode bosses.

    Especially when I went back to the older Raids and find most of the bosses there are nowhere near as punishing, save maybe Deathgaze.
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  6. #17226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    Either way it's awful! I'm so sorry you keep running into THAT kind of people ._. Especially in normal roulette content, that's just... that makes me so angry. If those squads of FC friends are so deathly serious about being top-ranked... o4n... uhhh... crystalloid farmers? Sure... let's go with that. Then they should be kicking each other out for apparently expecting a single pug dps to carry them.

    Please don't let it affect you or make you think like you are in the wrong. The objective truth is that in normal roulette content, a single DPS has no power, and therefore no responsibility, to singlehandedly cause failure or ensure success. If any normal-level raid or dungeon fails, it is 30% likely to be tanks' or healers' fault and 69.(99)% due to collective failure to deal with mechanics (it generally takes half the group dying to something they should have dodged to seriously disrupt a run). In the impossibly rare event that win or wipe somehow rests upon the shoulders of one NIN or BLM... then the other 7 people should probably pause their Netflix for 5 minutes.
    Honestly, all of these runs I keep having are probably because it's the end of the patch cycle. The friendly faces I find in Anemos have been a wonderful reprieve from the DF. Even Pagos, which I don't like at all - but there are lots of friendly players who have been quite helpful with a lot of things. Wish I could party with them in the DF on the few times that I go there. If there is anything good that I can really take from the last three experiences, it's that it's kinda forced me to do everything I can to never become the blame for anything.
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  7. #17227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    My own opinion of course but id say ewer(the one after tsunami where he spins it), tethers, computation, and lysis are the 4 moves. Am i wrong about this? Anyones experience tell them that a different/additional move is causing a lot of grief?
    I see more people die on Butter Rake than Lysis.
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  8. #17228
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    I made an alt marauder on another server to try a new race I hadn't played and just relax this weekend before I go back to the full time work full time student insanity of tomorrow. Doing Tamtara, everything is going fine save for the obvious problems with aggro that low level tanks have, but nobody even drops below 90% hp so its a cakewalk...but for some reason the healer and who I assume is his friend from Sargantas are just ragging on me the whole time over literally nothing. I am keeping aggro, they are pulling extra crap, but I never complain, I just hit berserk, mash overpower, and keep a generally fast pace moving from group to group, while also being the only one in the party who wants to hit the buttons and stuff to open the shields.

    I finally lost it though during the last boss...and I became the toxic player. When you're fighting the cthulu wizard thing, and it spawns mobs that have a magical tether to the boss, and the boss becomes invincible until you kill the mobs? I went to the mobs to attack them (because that's what you're supposed to be doing), but the thaumaturge in our party hit the boss with a fireball just as he went invincible, and it aggro'd the boss. Okay. I taunted the boss, and everything was good, we killed the mobs and went back to dpsing the boss.

    Then the healer states in party chat that "tanks shouldn't be doing dps jobs" and my transformation was complete. This has happened to me so many times, these idiot low level champs who constantly nag and overcorrect, and because they have one of their buddies who dogpiles me in the chat, that makes it totally okay. I tank at level 70 as my main job, I know what I'm doing, its grated on my nerves for the last time. So I proceed to just /dance while they finish the boss fight, and all three of them start screaming how I suck and how I'm "not even needed" and blah blah blah in the chat, and it only vindicated the dancing in my eyes. I just wish the group would have imploded BEFORE I took them to the end of the dungeon.
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  9. #17229
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Here we go again. If people are trying to convince me to quit, they're doing a damn good job at pushing me towards that direction. I've had more friendly experiences in Anemos than I've had in the DF lately.

    Went into the normal raid roulette and got Exdeath. First phase went fine. Everything was all good, until the next phase after he knocks off the wall barriers. Vacuum wave came up, and being on BLM for this, I popped Surecast. Next thing you know, we lost our main tank and both healers. I see the RDM is about halfway on his mana so I mana shifted him thinking that he'll rez since he's the only one that can.

    But nothing. We wipe.

    On the restart, the RDM asks me why I didn't rez. I told him I can't rez, and he proceeded to explain to me to look in my role actions and set resurrection. I said to him again that BLM didn't have a rez.

    One of the healers told him the same thing. RDM said that they can't play with a caster that can't rez, and I was kicked shortly after that.
    Did you manage to ask why he, a caster with the same Role Actions as Black Mage, didn't have Resurrection on his hotbars?
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  10. #17230
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Here we go again. If people are trying to convince me to quit, they're doing a damn good job at pushing me towards that direction. I've had more friendly experiences in Anemos than I've had in the DF lately.

    Went into the normal raid roulette and got Exdeath. First phase went fine. Everything was all good, until the next phase after he knocks off the wall barriers. Vacuum wave came up, and being on BLM for this, I popped Surecast. Next thing you know, we lost our main tank and both healers. I see the RDM is about halfway on his mana so I mana shifted him thinking that he'll rez since he's the only one that can.

    But nothing. We wipe.

    On the restart, the RDM asks me why I didn't rez. I told him I can't rez, and he proceeded to explain to me to look in my role actions and set resurrection. I said to him again that BLM didn't have a rez.

    One of the healers told him the same thing. RDM said that they can't play with a caster that can't rez, and I was kicked shortly after that.
    HOLY SHIT, that's insane.

    Ignorance is one thing but for at least five of those people to actually agree with a vote kick because one caster can't rez?

    Which god did you slight to end up in that mind melting scenario?

    I hope I never ever ever end up in a group like that. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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