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  1. #81
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    Nabian's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    Ran the MSQ Roulette while leveling my SCH to see what the change was about. Took forever and only got 1.2 million XP for my trouble(no noticeable change in xp gain). Won't be doing it again as it takes too long and doesn't give enough xp gain to make up for the time spent. A couple extra poetics as a reward is not an attractive incentive. I feel pretty bad for the newbies. Queue times are going to be terrible. They should consider upping the XP reward by a lot. If I was getting a level or two off it I would consider doing it while leveling alt classes.
    I did the same thing...got praetorium. Then 45 minutes later...we finished. Bosses died in seconds only for us to sit and wait for the next cutscene. Was a miserable experience and I will not be running MSQ roulette until its reversed. The tombstones were nice...but not worth it. For a 45 min dungeon...I would need to get at a minimum one full level worth of xp. Increasing the tombstones from 300 to 500 would be a nice bonus as well.
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  2. #82
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    As I type this, I'm mid-Prae, and while most of the group did not want to skip CSs, there is a pair who is doing just that. Just about completed the first boss entirely before we got out of CS, etc. And of course since that first pack of mobs wasn't killed, we still show 'in-combat', so a vote dismiss can't be initiated.

    ETA: So a vote dismiss DID manage to get through finally, but was turned down. I think they're being good now

    But really, why queue for this stuff if you don't want to deal with the time?
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 09-16-2018 at 11:21 AM.

  3. #83
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Don't let people see each other's votes. Shrug.
    New players typically have a sprout and wouldn't think to turn it off. Therefore, it'd be very easy to identify who opted not to skip cut scenes. The easy solution is to having unsync allow skipping cut scenes since you get zero rewards, it solves the issue of people who don't want to watch said cut scenes able to skip everything with a friend or just ask in PF.
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  4. #84
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    As I type this, I'm mid-Prae, and while most of the group did not want to skip CSs, there is a pair who is doing just that. Just about completed the first boss entirely before we got out of CS, etc. And of course since that first pack of mobs wasn't killed, we still show 'in-combat', so a vote dismiss can't be initiated.

    ETA: So a vote dismiss DID manage to get through finally, but was turned down. I think they're being good now

    But really, why queue for this stuff if you don't want to deal with the time?
    Just started a Prae run, and the first thing anyone said was "Does anyone want to skip?"

    Never mind that, between closing out the game and logging back in, there's really only a couple scenes longer than the time it takes to do that, and those you maybe reduce by 50% in terms of time spent relogging versus time spent watching the scene playout, so the time you save isn't that much for the amount of hassle to log and relog.

    They want the experience and tomestones granted for having to wait through the whole thing, without having to wait through the whole thing. I know this because I brought up that very question of "Why queue for the MSQ if you don't want to deal with the length of it?" Their response was that they wanted the xp.

    That's a good way to get it changed back and lose the good xp, or have the skip patched out and have to deal with doing the whole thing, scenes and all, for the xp. Either way, they lose out.

    Edit: Of course, apparently they've convinced enough to do it that I'm getting essentially a free ride through Prae at the moment. Meh, if this becomes more of a common thing, I'll just enjoy the free xp till it gets patched out/changed.
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    Last edited by Berethos; 09-17-2018 at 03:41 AM.

  5. #85
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
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    Ditto. Last time I had scene skippers in Prae, I told them I hope they can finish the fight before the rest of us get out of the CS, or their efforts are for naught. Most of the time this happens, the fight is either in progress, or in the best cases, just finishes by the time the rest of the group loads in. What this equates to is absolutely zero time shaved off of the run. They are still going to be in there the full 45 minutes.

    Considering SE made these changes to weed out the scene skippers, I would definitely be on board if they can find a way to penalize their exp and tome rewards for logging out. SE turned this roulette into a nice little Zen garden, but still has some stragglers left to pluck out of it.
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  6. #86
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    Arek Dotharl
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Simply, if you don't want to deal with the cutscenes, don't do it. The benefits of this change outweigh spending a bit of extra time watching cutscenes.
    • New players don't get their experience ruined by getting kicked for watching a cutscene. Don't say they can just watch it all through the journal, a lot of new people wouldn't know about it. It also ruins the immersion of running it your first time, makes you feel too rushed to enjoy something new to you, ontop of missing so much story. "Why did we go from fighting the Ultima weapon to everything suddenly being destroyed? And why is Lahabrea suddenly here?"
    • For people leveling their alts the EXP is beautiful. Get a good 25-75% of a level depending on what run you get. Makes leveling a lot faster, and it's a change of pace from seeing Palace/HoH for a hundred times.
    • The 50 mendacity is also great. One run, you're 1/9th of the way done for your weekly cap.

    These three benefits, for having patience and not having to put in much effort. Just open up youtube/netflix during the cutscenes, or make a sandwich.
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    Last edited by Forben; 09-17-2018 at 06:04 AM.

  7. #87
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Before i set 1 foot in there when i level an alt and watch all the cutscenes i'll run 100 normal dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  8. #88
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Obligatory “People still do MS roulette?”.

    Granted, it’s easy to ignore it when you’re 70 on everything. Even when next xpac hits, I won’t be running MS roulette for xp.
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  9. #89
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazgrel View Post
    Obligatory “People still do MS roulette?”.

    Granted, it’s easy to ignore it when you’re 70 on everything. Even when next xpac hits, I won’t be running MS roulette for xp.
    Its even easy to ignore when you still have something to level. These cutscenes make it way to annoying to run it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  10. #90
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    Aerlana's Avatar
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    Lahna Orora
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Forben View Post
    These three benefits, for having patience and not having to put in much effort. Just open up youtube/netflix during the cutscenes, or make a sandwich.
    So, to enjoy FFXIV you have to watch tv while you play it?

    Strange game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    Quote Originally Posted by GILDREIN View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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