Pushed to quit after 1,860 days subbed

[LalaRu]

Yet Another Campaign Against Demolition Timers.

Today, even rocks knows about the 45 days rule. I too have as estate and I don't need an email to remember I have to be there once in a while. Have your estate demolished and feign surprise is quite odd.

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As long as I know someone doesn't agree my POV above, will add fuel to the fire: when you never arsed to your house once in 45 days, you don't need an house.

[R-Pete-G]

Yet Another Campaign Against Demolition Timers.

Today, even rocks knows about the 45 days rule. I too have as estate and I don't need an email to remember I have to be there once in a while. Have your estate demolished and feign surprise is quite odd.

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As long as I know someone doesn't agree my POV above, will add fuel to the fire: when you never arsed to your house once in 45 days, you don't need an house.

Declaring that everyone knows about demolition timers doesn't make it so, and wilfully ignores the replies here proving that you're mistaken. If I was aware they existed, I wouldn't need an email reminder either.

I agree with you that if you're not arsed to go to your house in 45 days, you probably don't need one. But as the system can't tell the difference between "not arsed" and "wants to, but can't due to extenuating circumstances", it needs to accommodate both possibilities. Currently it doesn't do the latter very well at all.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I agree with you that if you're not arsed to go to your house in 45 days, you probably don't need one. But as the system can't tell the difference between "not arsed" and "wants to, but can't due to extenuating circumstances", it needs to accommodate both possibilities. Currently it doesn't do the latter very well at all.

It takes all of two seconds to port to your house and walk inside. Why no one would do that to begin with in a 45 day span is beyond me - this isn't even "wanting to but can't", it's "I literally couldn't be arsed to take two seconds to walk into the home that means so much to me it'll make me quit if I lose it".

I agree the demo system shouldn't be necessary, I wish it wasn't.

I agree perhaps there could be more easily-accessible reminders or notifications about the demo timer in-game, instead of needing to sift through housing menus or wait on the magically-disappearing emails from SE about it.

I agree with all these points.

But in the end, it was still entirely on you for not having even the faintest idea of the demo timer. I also find it extremely hard to believe that even in-game, talking to friends, no mention of a demo timer ever came up whatsoever. That's one of the biggest complaints from this game's community. It is almost impossible to go about your life in the game being blissfully unaware of the fact it exists at all, let alone how long it is.

Also, again - if you can't be bothered to even go into your super-important-omg-I'll-quit-if-I-lose-it house within 45 days, of which you have plenty of time to be doing events and the like, then you do not need that house in the first place.

[R-Pete-G]

It takes all of two seconds to port to your house and walk inside. Why no one would do that to begin with in a 45 day span is beyond me - this isn't even "wanting to but can't", it's "I literally couldn't be arsed to take two seconds to walk into the home that means so much to me it'll make me quit if I lose it".

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But in the end, it was still entirely on you for not having even the faintest idea of the demo timer. I also find it extremely hard to believe that even in-game, talking to friends, no mention of a demo timer ever came up whatsoever. That's one of the biggest complaints from this game's community. It is almost impossible to go about your life in the game being blissfully unaware of the fact it exists at all, let alone how long it is.

Also, again - if you can't be bothered to even go into your super-important-omg-I'll-quit-if-I-lose-it house within 45 days, of which you have plenty of time to be doing events and the like, then you do not need that house in the first place.

You're obviously entitled to disagree with me about things that are subjective. But my actions and motivations are not subjective, they are facts, and because I find assumptions / generalisations about my motivations worth correcting, I will do so.

It categorically was a case of "wanting to but can't". You can make false assumptions all you like, but that doesn't change the reality of it. I had incredibly limited time to play FFXIV, for reasons that shouldn't be necessary to drag out just to make my story more "believable", and was only able to scrape together a couple of hours a month to try and keep on top of things for when I returned. Having no knowledge that my home was at risk by not doing so, walking into that home wasn't something I knew I had to keep on top of. Not even close to "I literally couldn't be arsed" - if I knew that it was necessary, "being arsed" would have jumped to the top of the priority list, and I'd have sacrificed something else from the little time I had to play.

There are a great many things that people find it "extremely hard to believe", when they have the benefit of knowing them themselves. Despite what you anecdotally think is "almost impossible", it happened. Being incredulously surprised about this doesn't make it any less true. In the last couple of years I've played in quite a small FC, and I don't spend a lot of time chatting in cities or watching chat. At the end of the day, it shouldn't matter how likely you think it is or isn't, but it's entirely possible to not hear about every hot topic in the community depending on the conversations you're exposed to, and that's exactly what happened.

Making false assumptions makes it really easy to throw together a dismissive sentence about how ridiculous it is. But the reality is somewhat different. On that last line, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps you just hadn't understood what I've said. The thread is quite long now, after all... So, to correct those points: I would have been bothered, I just didn't know. Losing the house didn't push me to quit, the policy on arbitrary deletion of furnishings after a demolition did. I had no where near "plenty" of time to anything, and had to prioritise the few things I knew were time limited. And no one needs a house, it's an optional part of the game that some people want more than others, but I wanted it just as much as many other players do. Despite that, the demolition of the house is - regardless of what people seem to be focusing on - not my main complaint.