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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    It has already been stated the reason we have to buy ourselves ranks in the GC is because we are adventurers, not part of any City-state's military corp or goverment. We are freelancers who have pledged allegiance with one of the GC (the direct military force of a City-State), unlike Aht Urghan where we were not part of the actual military might of the empire but our ranks were directly tied to Naja's mercenaries.
    You do know that mercenaries are soldiers for hire right? Your argument doesn't make sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    Originally Posted by Zoltan
    You may be able to get GC Seals in exchange for Guild Marks that you have spent and not spent. That is my point.

    Yes, I personally hope they don't do this, it doesn't really make sense since the guilds are separate from the GCs. Though I suppose they could be rewarding you for helping out the guilds, which in turn helps them out somehow, idk. But that doesn't mean that we need a whole new currency for rank, especially since they haven't confirmed that they will allow this.
    I do hope they allow exchange of GM for GC. It does appear that way since most people do not need more gil and I can't see them adding enough items that one could spend all of their earned and spent guild marks on. I'm sure that its not going to be a 1:1 exchange ratio. Having said that, I really do not believe that GC ranking should be obtained with GC Seals and quests/missions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    It has already been stated the reason we have to buy ourselves ranks in the GC is because we are adventurers, not part of any City-state's military corp or goverment. We are freelancers who have pledged allegiance with one of the GC (the direct military force of a City-State), unlike Aht Urghan where we were not part of the actual military might of the empire but our ranks were directly tied to Naja's mercenaries.
    Ah, I didn't know that, thanks for sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    You do know that mercenaries are soldiers for hire right? Your argument doesn't make sense to me.
    What I'm trying to get at is: The city-state can not grant us ranks through normal means as we are not actual citizens. We need to buy ourselves those ranks.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    What I'm trying to get at is: The city-state can not grant us ranks through normal means as we are not actual citizens. We need to buy ourselves those ranks.
    It confused me when you compared it to Saleems' Sentinels who were mercenaries and were not part of Aht Urghan Empire.

    If we were supposed to buy them, then they could sell them to us for gil and not have any other currency.

    I guess they don't have currency conversion in Eorzea. Well, we will with Guild Marks. Still doesnt change the fact that it is Military Rank and we are supposed to pay them with money (GC seals) that they give us.
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    Didn't read the OP or thread posts but just wanna say: stfu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picoman View Post
    Didn't read the OP or thread posts but just wanna say: stfu
    Wow, way to make yourself look like an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    Wow, way to make yourself look like an idiot.
    w00t!

    I believe i made my point! ^^

    Im sure somewhere in this thread someone made a decent argument but really, wtf.
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    just a unspecifyed amount of shoping days left to accumulate that 7k gcs!
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    I agree with the original poster, this is really dissapointing.

    I would have preferred a series of missions (at least 3 per rank) required to raise in rank. The lowest rank you could do solo, the next rank would require 2 players to accomplish, the next 4 players. To attain the highest rank you would need a full party of 8 players to complete the final set of missions.

    As a bonus and incentive for players who have already completed the missions to help out players who haven't, they would receive a significant amount of seals upon completion. You would have situations like a Storm Sergeant Third Class for example leading a group of Storm Private Second Class just like they would in a real life military scenario. Neat!

    This would be fun and awesome, why not implement this?

    The missions could be easy to create:

    1) Kill 100 enemies in this area
    2) Instanced raid (turn Darkhold into grand company mission, who does this anymore anyway?)
    3) Defeat certain NM's
    4) Defend the city from an attack (cool!)
    5) Retrieve a rare medicine from a remote area to cure the princess
    6) Submit a set of spiritbonded military issue equipment
    7) Attune yourself to 4 specific aetherytes that are very challenging to reach
    8) Attune yourself to all the aetherytes in your cities zone
    9) Protect a caravan from your city to another
    10) Deliver an important message by chocobo from one city to another in a certain amount of time

    Implementing the grand companies is a good idea, but to make it a great idea, make it resemble real life. Soldiers are promoted by their action on the battlefiled not by speding military credits.

    There is a lot of potential here, please take advantage of it. Making you feel part of the militaries in Eorzea could be a huge and immersive part of this game. Check out the anime series "Full Metal Alchemist" for a neat portrayal of a fictional military sytem. Also, the faction quest lines from "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim" does a great job portraying the advancement of a character through the ranks of a military system.
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