[patch1.20] NO GC Seals to rank up!!!

[Shneibel]

You're right. I was talking more about a quest for every rank up, but you're right. Going from Corporal to Sergeant Third Class we've got a complete to quest.

Speaking of which, what follows corporal? Are there three ranks of that, or does it goes to another rank?

not any soon, this is military system

atm we are at: Serpent Sergeant Third Class MAX

next expand will be :
Serpent Sergeant Second Class
Serpent Sergeant First Class

quest

Dont know what come next, I am not military knowledge

edit: and coporal dont have any Third, second or first, at least not what I know
edit: yes, any FPS player can fill in ? I play FPS too but killing ppl > rank so I dont know

[Zoltan]

just quit, get the fuck outta here

There is no place for this whatsoever. It is completely uncalled for and falls under the category of a personal attack. I am personally offended by your language and hope that a moderator takes action immediately.

You are neither adding to the discussion nor helping and should be banned from posting in these forums.

[Sputnik]

just quit, GTFO here


lawl QQ

[Masamune1004]

It's not the same thing. It's like being taxed. It's not a choice unless one considers obtaining the next rank as optional.

Why wouldn't they consider getting the rank optional? It doesn't really do that much.

Obtaining rank should be based on performing work, service or accomplishing goals like missions or quests. (Quests are not necessarily military, btw.)

Grand company seals are awarded for company guildleves, caravan escorts, supply and provision quests, and doing quests. There is no other way to obtain seals as they are not able to be traded. So you do the work, and get the ranks.

If you are rewarded with GC seals for your efforts, they should not take those away in order for you to achieve the next rank. It was done logically in FFXI when they had Mercenary ranks. I would prefer them to do it that way rather than their proposed change.

Yeah, let's just copy everything in FFXI. This seems to be the general consensus since this game tried to be different and failed. While I agree that this game should have some elements that FFXI had, it does not need to be an exact copy.

Although death and taxes are unavoidable, that does not mean that they are necessarily the same thing either.

Taxation without representation is Tyranny.

I don't even get what you're trying to say here. Would you be happy if the ranks were gotten by quests only, but the items were doubled in price? Or the amount of seals obtained by doing leves and such remained the same?

[Masamune1004]

But irl, if you paid your commanding officer to rank up in a military force it'd be bribery just saying.

Would it still be bribery if the currency you paid was given out by the military by doing services for your country?

Gil is the representation of money in this game. Gil =/= seals. Seals are completely different. There is no way to trade gil for seals.

[Nero]

This is simply the wrong way to go about ranking up in the Grand Companies.

Exchanging GC seals should be reserved for the gear or rewards that the player receives from the Grand Company and not used for ranking up.

There should be "Rank Up" points which are accumulated separately from GC Seals.

I would like to call your attention to the Mercenary Rank system in FFXI:

"The Mercenary Rank system works similarly to the Rank system. With a higher Rank, you are able to buy more items with Imperial Standing Points at an Imperial Gate Guard and the Sanction status will last longer. However, rather than donating crystals to Conquest Overseers and doing nation missions, you must successfully complete Assaults for your promotions.

To earn the next Mercenary Rank you have to accumulate 25 "Rank-Up Points" in Assault Missions"

It is not a good practice to reward players with one currency and then penalize them by taking away that currency. If it is a rank system then there should be a separate method of determining the experience or work completed towards gaining rank rather than taking the seals from the player.

I strongly urge Square Enix to rethink this change.

Thank you!

I like it the way they are doing it. Im sitting at 10.000 GC's for a while and had to buy crap, which i tossed, to finish all Quests. So it will be nice that i actually can spend them on something usefull.

[Masamune1004]

just quit, get the fuck outta here

Really no need for this, it's rude and doesn't contribute in any way.

[Zoltan]

You should earn rank by accumulating Rank Up points or some other scaled denominator other than GC Seals.

They should be totally separate. It appears to me that the developers are being lazy and reusing the same mechanism for rewards as they are for determining the procedure for achieving rank.

Elements like Mercenary rank made sense. I only cited it as an example.

I cited taxes as an example too.

You may be able to get GC Seals in exchange for Guild Marks that you have spent and not spent. That is my point.

The reference to rank being optional was a response to another's post, not yours, where they said: "Spend your seals wisely or grind some more. It's your choice"

[Masamune1004]

You should earn rank by accumulating Rank Up points or some other scaled denominator other than GC Seals.

They should be totally separate. It appears to me that the developers are being lazy and reusing the same mechanism for rewards as they are for determining the procedure for achieving rank.

They're trying to get rid of the extra, unneeded currencies, not put more in.

You may be able to get GC Seals in exchange for Guild Marks that you have spent and not spent. That is my point

Yes, I personally hope they don't do this, it doesn't really make sense since the guilds are separate from the GCs. Though I suppose they could be rewarding you for helping out the guilds, which in turn helps them out somehow, idk. But that doesn't mean that we need a whole new currency for rank, especially since they haven't confirmed that they will allow this.

[Holland]

It has already been stated the reason we have to buy ourselves ranks in the GC is because we are adventurers, not part of any City-state's military corp or goverment. We are freelancers who have pledged allegiance with one of the GC (the direct military force of a City-State), unlike Aht Urghan where we were not part of the actual military might of the empire but our ranks were directly tied to Naja's mercenaries.