[patch1.20] NO GC Seals to rank up!!!

[Zoltan]

But you earn the GC seals by doing services for your GC, so it's the same thing, it just allows for freedom of choice.

It's not the same thing. It's like being taxed. It's not a choice unless one considers obtaining the next rank as optional.

Obtaining rank should be based on performing work, service or accomplishing goals like missions or quests. (Quests are not necessarily military, btw.)

If you are rewarded with GC seals for your efforts, they should not take those away in order for you to achieve the next rank. It was done logically in FFXI when they had Mercenary ranks. I would prefer them to do it that way rather than their proposed change.

Although death and taxes are unavoidable, that does not mean that they are necessarily the same thing either.

Taxation without representation is Tyranny.

It is not a complaint, it is a suggestion to improve their product.

[zaviermhigo]

I don't see a problem with the action of using seals to rank up. But irl, if you paid your commanding officer to rank up in a military force it'd be bribery just saying. But FFXIV isn't real, and they figure with this new patch we'll have a lot of seals.

[Victor]

The only problem I have with this is that I already have the required seals to go to max rank. In other words, in terms of new content, this offers me next to none. According to the notes I just have to do one quest to max out my rank. I'm sure most people in these forums are in the same boat.

[Jennestia]

The only problem I have with this is that I already have the required seals to go to max rank. In other words, in terms of new content, this offers me next to none. According to the notes I just have to do one quest to max out my rank. I'm sure most people in these forums are in the same boat.

^. This is what I mean, just buying your rank is very different from earning it (XI's system) while yes you gain Assault Points and Nyzul Tokens, you don't buy your rank with it, you get a separate type of points in the process which goes towards your rank. So basically, promotions will go to those who can hold back on buying items and gear.

[Shneibel]

guess I am not the only in here find spent GC seal for rank up is normal

[Sputnik]

This is simply the wrong way to go about ranking up in the Grand Companies.

Exchanging GC seals should be reserved for the gear or rewards that the player receives from the Grand Company and not used for ranking up.

There should be "Rank Up" points which are accumulated separately from GC Seals.

I would like to call your attention to the Mercenary Rank system in FFXI:

"The Mercenary Rank system works similarly to the Rank system. With a higher Rank, you are able to buy more items with Imperial Standing Points at an Imperial Gate Guard and the Sanction status will last longer. However, rather than donating crystals to Conquest Overseers and doing nation missions, you must successfully complete Assaults for your promotions.

To earn the next Mercenary Rank you have to accumulate 25 "Rank-Up Points" in Assault Missions"

It is not a good practice to reward players with one currency and then penalize them by taking away that currency. If it is a rank system then there should be a separate method of determining the experience or work completed towards gaining rank rather than taking the seals from the player.

I strongly urge Square Enix to rethink this change.

Thank you!

just quit, get the fuck outta here

[SeraviEdalborez]

The companies themselves say in the game right now that promotions cost seals. /thread.

[normalforce]

^. This is what I mean, just buying your rank is very different from earning it (XI's system) while yes you gain Assault Points and Nyzul Tokens, you don't buy your rank with it, you get a separate type of points in the process which goes towards your rank. So basically, promotions will go to those who can hold back on buying items and gear.

Yea, I can see this as being disappointing. Those who stockpiled GC seals basically only get a larger amount of GC seals they can stockpile now.

I actually would have preferred having to complete a quest before I could spend the seals to increase to the next rank.

[Shneibel]

Yea, I can see this as being disappointing. Those who stockpiled GC seals basically only get a larger amount of GC seals they can stockpile now.

I actually would have preferred having to complete a quest before I could spend the seals to increase to the next rank.

there is

Please note that the promotion from Corporal to Sergeant Third Class also requires the completion of the following Grand Company quests.

Grand Company Quest
Maelstrom The Weakest Link
Order of the Twin Adder You Don’t Have the Rite
Immortal Flames Gore a Lizard, Hurry

and this is fine, you only do quest/3 rank

[normalforce]

there is



and this is fine, you only do quest/3 rank

You're right. I was talking more about a quest for every rank up, but you're right. Going from Corporal to Sergeant Third Class we've got a complete to quest.

Speaking of which, what follows corporal? Are there three ranks of that, or does it goes to another rank?