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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    EDIT: Plus, 1.0 items are no longer obtainable at all, meanwhile contest items can still be won. There's a difference between being exclusive and unobtainable.
    What about the countless people banned from the official forums but not from the game itself? They literally can't enter any contests short of abandoning their characters and making new accounts, so for a not-insignificant portion of the population the contest rewards literally ARE unobtainable.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Gosh, it's almost like they were rare or something.
    If it were so rare, why wouldn't the few people that won it be showing it off? Going by memory, your screenshots are the first time I've seen someone actually wearing it ingame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes
    This scarf is still a current contest reward, RIP everyone who picked it as their item.
    They're allowing recent contest winners, who picked the scarf as their prize, to change their choice to something else.
    I also imagine that with the addition to the Itinerant Moogle, the scarf will be retired from the contest reward pool.
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  3. #63
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    It's a digital scarf...
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    It's a digital scarf...
    I hate this excuse with a passion. "It's just digital!" Yes, the entire game is. I suppose it's time to stop caring when SE implements something crazy, or takes away items, or implements only female clothes, or does anything that we don't like. It's just digital, folks.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I hate this excuse with a passion. "It's just digital!" Yes, the entire game is. I suppose it's time to stop caring when SE implements something crazy, or takes away items, or implements only female clothes, or does anything that we don't like. It's just digital, folks.
    I wish I had the time or energy to go up in an emotional outrage and grab a pitchfork over a digital scarf.

    Actually, I wish I had as much energy as you do to suddenly dial something that was 0 up to 111 with hyperbole.

    The devs doing something catastrophically damaging towards the game's content like screwing up Pagos, and potentially Pyros, is an entirely different matter to be angry over than "they made my digital scarf not exclusive anymore".
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I wish I had the time or energy to go up in an emotional outrage and grab a pitchfork over a digital scarf.
    You sure seem to have plenty enough energy to attack people on the internet for the slightest of perceived transgressions.

    Over digital items that have no value, at that.

    Funny how that works.

    is an entirely different matter to be angry over
    Nope, sorry. Just digital.

    It's just pixels, bro. Why you mad bro? It's just pixels.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    You sure seem to have plenty enough energy to attack people on the internet for the slightest of perceived transgressions.

    Over digital items that have no value, at that.

    Funny how that works.


    Nope, sorry. Just digital.

    It's just pixels, bro. Why you mad bro? It's just pixels.
    Plenty enough energy to have a rational conversation with Skivvy, but definitely not enough energy to deal with a troll like yourself.

    If you don't want your opinion criticized, then might I suggest you stay off public venues like the forums?

    This isn't an echo chamber, bro.

    Also, saying someone is being hyperbole a little is not even an attack. I mean, I can honestly say you're doing it now too.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 09-15-2018 at 08:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    You sure seem to have plenty enough energy to attack people on the internet for the slightest of perceived transgressions.
    You do realize someone disagreeing with you doesn't mean they're "attacking" you right? Because I don't think you do. You're taking this way to personal.
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    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I wish I had the time or energy to go up in an emotional outrage and grab a pitchfork over a digital scarf.

    Actually, I wish I had as much energy as you do to suddenly dial something that was 0 up to 111 with hyperbole.
    As you correctly identified, my comment was some good ol' quality hyperbole to help point out how ridiculous the argument of "It's just digital, bro!" is. These forums exist to chat about our adventures in a digital world, so that argument doesn't really hold much water, IMO.

    I understand that many people don't care one bit about a scarf/event reward, but that doesn't invalidate the concerns being posted here. Trying to discredit and brush off someone's complaint as "it's just digital" doesn't really help the conversation.

    On a personal note, my issue is not about not wanting to share the items with other players (I don't have the scarf or White Raven earring). My concern is more about the behavior behind reusing old exclusive rewards in the first place. I am perfectly OK with exclusive items existing in a game. The 1.0 earring was a far larger issue to me as that was a completely different game, and was a special treat that SE allowed to carry over into XIV for those players. Now they are starting to recycle past contest rewards. These were special items given to people who participated in various contests.

    To me, it's a mix of them showing no appreciation to players who did participate in <whatever spawned the reward> and also a healthy dose of laziness. Why bother creating a new item to release when you can just pull past items that were previously exclusive, right?
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 09-15-2018 at 08:27 AM.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    As you correctly identified, my comment was some good ol' quality hyperbole to help point out how ridiculous the argument of "It's just digital, bro!" is. These forums exist to chat about our adventures in a digital world, so that argument doesn't really hold much water, IMO.

    I understand that many people don't care one bit about a scarf/event reward, but that doesn't invalidate the concerns being posted here. Trying to discredit and brush off someone's complaint as "it's just digital" doesn't really help the conversation.

    On a personal note, my issue is not with the items themselves (the scarf, White Raven earring). My concern is more about the behavior behind doing it in the first place. I am perfectly OK with exclusive items existing in a game. The 1.0 earring was a far larger issue to me as that was a completely different game, and was a special treat that SE allowed to carry over into XIV for those players (I don't have one even though I'm legacy). Now they are starting to recycle past contest rewards. These were special items given to people who participated in various contests.

    To me, it's a mix of them showing no appreciation to players who did participate in <whatever spawned the reward> and also a healthy dose of laziness. Why bother creating a new item to release when you can just pull past items that were previously exclusive, right?
    Maybe because I'm of a different era where digital items are great to put your own personal value into it, but not enough to act like (for some) that it's the end of the world, so to speak, in my opinion at least. I just see so many people getting angry over something that can only exist within this game that they have, but now others can have, and I just can't help but shake my head at getting yourself so riled up over something, again in my opinion, is a very trivial thing to get upset over.

    Life is too short to be spending your time and effort on popping a blood vessel and making your blood pressure sky rocket over something as silly as a digital scarf. ;P

    You may find my opinion on the matter that "it's just digital" ridiculous, but it's still just as valid as your own too. The hyperbole also just doesn't help me take your argument seriously either when it's done. I always feel like adding hyperbole onto anything to the extremity of that nature just makes me feel like I should stop taking that person seriously, lol.

    Honestly, this could have all been avoided entirely if they just never stated anything was exclusive to begin with, especially for something that can easily be reproduced within a matter of seconds through digital coding. Even for the contests, I think it's a tad silly because each contest doesn't even hold the same kind of time/effort scaling.

    A person could spend weeks to months working on something for the gear/hairstyle design contests and never win one, only for someone to take a screenshot of their in-game house, spend five minutes doing so, and win one from there. The rewards don't even match up to the amount of effort put in, in my opinion. It already feels like a lack of appreciation and disingenuous from the devs.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 09-15-2018 at 08:44 AM.

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