Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[TalithaSolarien]

Leveling roulette: Qarn.
Party: Me as PLD, some WHM, RDM, and DRG. Similar names all from the same server, probably a premade.

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Sounds like you had same serious lag issues at the first boss and with bees.
The RDM looks like a player that hasn't figured out his class yet (can't comment on the DRG, haven't played that class yes). Happens, luckily not to often.

[SaitoHikari]

...Come to think of it, I think I just ran an expert roulette with a couple of forumers. I think I recognized the names from somewhere. A certain tank/healer pair, of which the tank possessed an Ultima axe.

I may be mistaken, but I could have sworn I've seen both names on the forums before. Hm. Rina Astrea and Black Lily. We had a player in the party who had yet to clear but we still blew through the dungeon in less than 16 minutes regardless.

[TaiyoShikasu]

Sounds like you had same serious lag issues at the first boss and with bees.
The RDM looks like a player that hasn't figured out his class yet (can't comment on the DRG, haven't played that class yes). Happens, luckily not to often.

At that level, DRG is literally Heavy Thrust > True Thrust > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust with a Jump and Blood for Blood in there. Impulse Drive might as well not even be there because Vorpal Thrust after True Thrust is more potency. Heavy Thrust is the only positional you have which is flank, so you can literally stand beside the boss and wail on it and not lose anything as long as you keep Heavy Thrust up. Also the only positional the job has until level 50.

At that level, the only melee more brainless than DRG is NIN where you just stand behind the boss and go 123 with the odd Jugulate and Mug mostly Jugulate in between not even factoring in Mudras.

[Paladinleeds]

I'd like address the toxic player mentality out there where people feel the need to tell others how to play the game. I've been playing Machinist for the past week now and I'm currently at level 62. I haven't entirely gotten the mechanics down yet and will probably never be really good at it for say Savage content which I don't do because I know I'm not good enough to do it on any job. I main BLM and I like to think I'm pretty good at it. But, I would never tell anyone else how to play BLM cause I know that I wouldn't like it if someone did it to me. Now, today I am playing in Sirensong Sea and this happens:

My thoughts, you were almost completely in the wrong. They explained how the AoE works, and truth be told, spread shot is still more potency overall in multi-target situations like those, especially when you factor in the bloody RNG of the job (which can be mitigated with ammo I know, but those things have cooldowns!)... When you started going f you, and then proceeded to report them for their attitude... you shot yourself in the foot there (pun NOT intended), you're likely to have a black mark on your own account (and for the record, they never disappear. If you were to swear again 50 years down the line, that first offence would still be used against you, fifty years on!) - only thing I disagree with is healer refusing to heal you, but I can understand that was borne out of frustration. You however were the toxic player, and the fact they had to kick you for harassing the healer, yeah, you could potentially be banned for that.

[KaivaC]

Practice makes perfect. You are going to stumble, you are going to mess up. Now, they could have gone "Hey, have you considered doing this? We've run the maths and the buff would last long for us to make it worth it." and been supportive and encouraging. Instead, they decided to make everyone's lives worse because of it, instead of being reasonable and just guiding. When it comes to knowledge, sharing is caring. I would do the same with my static, politely explain my findings and such with them, and we can all conquer it together. I'll be polite and calm and explain things in a friendly encouraging way. And as for rescue, I use it for the intended purpose in PUGs. As for shirk... now if someone keeps pulling ahead even though I've asked them repeatedly not to (due to my analysis of the party being that we can't safely handle more), then I might snap and shirk them, but other than that I'm fine.

I hear what you're saying clearly. But I don't have a static. The most frustrating thing for me is that the literal last two things I did in the DF over the past week or so, ended with a player/players either blaming me for having aggro when the main tank dies, or the whole situation that I mentioned a page before. At this point, I don't even play on NIN right now because I don't feel like dealing with more angry players over mistakes that I make. I just play in Anemos on BLM. I dunno, I'm kinda extremely frustrated right now because I'm trying my best.

[Paladinleeds]

I hear what you're saying clearly. But I don't have a static. The most frustrating thing for me is that the literal last two things I did in the DF over the past week or so, ended with a player/players either blaming me for having aggro when the main tank dies, or the whole situation that I mentioned a page before. At this point, I don't even play on NIN right now because I don't feel like dealing with more angry players over mistakes that I make. I just play in Anemos on BLM. I dunno, I'm kinda extremely frustrated right now because I'm trying my best.

Unfortunately you're not on my datacentre, and I know you're American and probably won't want to deal with EU ping, else I'd have offered you a place in my static that I'm wanting to build for 4.4 and beyond. It'll be EU evenings though that we'd be raiding so given timezones, I don't think that'd work out for you unfortunately. I know you're disheartened, but maybe try building your own static in 4.4 and clearly laying out ground rules and what you want to achieve? I know you can do it, just need the right people. GL out there fellow Eorzean.

[Riyven]

Where to begin?
Ppl who kicked you for viewing a cutscene...
Ppl who lecture you cause they "have a lvl 70 of that class and know it better than u"...
(and after reading some advice ppl, I am talking about those kind of ppl who tell u something, u appreciate it and still keeping saying and saying, using caps and laughing if u receive a single dmg after their "advise". Yeah guys, thats lecturing)
Tanks who doesnt take aggro and want to dismiss u for running when u got aggro...

And this is only from today. I didn't find all these ppl when I started but now is daily...

[MoroMurasaki]

Where to begin?
Ppl who kicked you for viewing a cutscene...
Ppl who lecture you cause they "have a lvl 70 of that class and know it better than u"...
(and after reading some advice ppl, I am talking about those kind of ppl who tell u something, u appreciate it and still keeping saying and saying, using caps and laughing if u receive a single dmg after their "advise". Yeah guys, thats lecturing)
Tanks who doesnt take aggro and want to dismiss u for running when u got aggro...

And this is only from today. I didn't find all these ppl when I started but now is daily...

Sorry you're encountering some bads!

Just wanted to chime in on your one point about running when you wind up aggroing an enemy.

If you run to the tank you're making it easier for him to take the enemy off of you. If you run around the area kiting the enemy you're just making it harder for him to take back threat because he has to chase you down.

Not saying that they should mistreat you if you make a mistake, only that you can make it easier on everyone involved if you don't run around needlessly. In higher level instances this can literally be the difference between the tank getting an enemy off of you in time or it killing you.

[KaivaC]

Unfortunately you're not on my datacentre, and I know you're American and probably won't want to deal with EU ping, else I'd have offered you a place in my static that I'm wanting to build for 4.4 and beyond. It'll be EU evenings though that we'd be raiding so given timezones, I don't think that'd work out for you unfortunately. I know you're disheartened, but maybe try building your own static in 4.4 and clearly laying out ground rules and what you want to achieve? I know you can do it, just need the right people. GL out there fellow Eorzean.

I appreciate the support. I need to actually git gud first before even thinking about statics lmao

[Jonnykit]

I've been spamming potd non stop with short ques, are you on the aether datacenter?

Do you parse?

Sorry for the long wait to reply, I went to bed shortly there after as I needed to be up in 5 hours to go to work. I'm on Primal Data Center and I play on the PS4 using Controller. I don't have way to parse other than reviewing combat log with dummies.