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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantis View Post
    Do you think the game would appeal more if the game mechanics and rules of FFXI were implemented?
    yes it is the only way to save the game. majority of lost subs were expecting a ffxi-2 with the new world, graphics, and monsters to fight.

    players instead got a whole new system and the game failed. common sense will tell you they will go back to what has worked in the past. this game cost 10's of millions of dollars to make. they will not gamble for a second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argh View Post
    yes it is the only way to save the game. majority of lost subs were expecting a ffxi-2 with the new world, graphics, and monsters to fight.

    players instead got a whole new system and the game failed. common sense will tell you they will go back to what has worked in the past. this game cost 10's of millions of dollars to make. they will not gamble for a second time.
    Majority wasn't expecting a FFXI-2...If anybody read the interviews than you should have gained an image much larger and better than FFXI. Majority wanted AT LEAST something to do rather than what we have now. This game won't survive off of grinding mobs all day long in a "camp" just to level. The world hated FFXI after WoW so a copy/paste upgrade would not have kept that many people. Plus why would any vet want 9 more years of the same thing?


    edit: Based off of the thread you made it was obvious I was far from alone on that matter. Failing to salvage the goods from FFXI with a completely new slate is what most vets are confused about.
    The only thing I see that they enhanced from FFXI is the Armory System. From what Yoshi-P stated its safe to assume its going to be the Job/subjob system v2.0. Which will be much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    Majority wasn't expecting a FFXI-2...If anybody read the interviews than you should have gained an image much larger and better than FFXI. Majority wanted AT LEAST something to do rather than what we have now. This game won't survive off of grinding mobs all day long in a "camp" just to level. The world hated FFXI after WoW so a copy/paste upgrade would not have kept that many people. Plus why would any vet want 9 more years of the same thing?
    Actually most the people I know on FFXI were hoping for an FFXI-2 the others that weren't from FFXI didn't know what to expect. Final Fantasy has always been a party based game. FFXIV is straying away from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantis View Post
    Actually most the people I know on FFXI were hoping for an FFXI-2 the others that weren't from FFXI didn't know what to expect. Final Fantasy has always been a party based game. FFXIV is straying away from this.
    FFXIV should be party based but not as strict. Where If I want the best way to level I would get a party. However, If I don't have time I can still make some progress. Which is one thing I thought they were aiming for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    FFXIV should be party based but not as strict. Where If I want the best way to level I would get a party. However, If I don't have time I can still make some progress. Which is one thing I thought they were aiming for.
    I agree. I would like to have like partying is the best option but you could still solo to progress as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantis View Post
    I agree. I would like to have like partying is the best option but you could still solo to progress as well.
    This is incredibly hard to balance. it's either make a party based game or a solo based MMO. WHy make an MMO soloable... isnt that an Off Line RPGs place?
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    I think that people are confusing a lack of content with a deliberate design choice.

    I'm pretty sure (or at least hoping) they didnt go: WELP WE DONT NEED TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE GAME FOR PLAYERS TO DO BECAUSE WE HAD THINGS TO DO IN XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    Majority wasn't expecting a FFXI-2...If anybody read the interviews than you should have gained an image much larger and better than FFXI. Majority wanted AT LEAST something to do rather than what we have now. This game won't survive off of grinding mobs all day long in a "camp" just to level. The world hated FFXI after WoW so a copy/paste upgrade would not have kept that many people. Plus why would any vet want 9 more years of the same thing?
    DUDE. For the last and final time. yes people were expecting a FF11-2 BUT not a copy/paste of the same freakin game. People were expecting it to be LIKE FF11 by adopting everything that made 11 great and turned it into something amazing/exciting/new TWISTING the very fibers of FF11's being further enhancing it's beauty and giving us a hole new awesome experience to build upon but they were incredibly misleading and it turned out to be NOTHING like 11 and NOTHING like any other MMO out there and that's why it is in it's current state... dude.

    And once again... to some it up... FF14 needed FF11's structure. They could have done SO MUCH MORE with FF11 and that's where FF14 was supposed to come into place but that did not happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuffin View Post
    DUDE. For the last and final time. yes people were expecting a FF11-2 BUT not a copy/paste of the same freakin game. People were expecting it to be LIKE FF11 by adopting everything that made 11 great and turned it into something amazing/exciting/new TWISTING the very fibers of FF11's being further enhancing it's beauty and giving us a hole new awesome experience to build upon but they were incredibly misleading and it turned out to be NOTHING like 11 and NOTHING like any other MMO out there and that's why it is in it's current state... dude.

    And once again... to some it up... FF14 needed FF11's structure. They could have done SO MUCH MORE with FF11 and that's where FF14 was supposed to come into place but that did not happen.
    We must have gotten the concept of FFXI-2 from two places with different views. I agree with what you said but when I learned about a "FFXI-2" it was a copy/paste design with a graphical upgrade. Which I am completely against.
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