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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Okay to be 100% serious for once, I really didn't know the stats changed and no one told me so. Was joking around with the button-pressing stuff. Never had any raider friends in SB. Back in HW Skill Speed was better than Determination so I just followed that. Even knowing now that Determination is actually better it still doesn't change my desire for perfect BiS through different gear sets. I just focus my attention on a different 3rd stat.
    Ah okay, well just remember expansions change things so keep an eye on guides for BiS and stuff if you wanna try for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    The devs balance everything to be below i370(soon to be i400) without any other kind of options "because raids" -> When we did have an exception happen raiders complained(not saying you complained). And gear drops were nerfed and ilvl was nerfed to i205. This is when I included blame on the raiders. -> after that everything stagnated in my eyes, even when I was raiding myself. Because I still wanted to see other things that gave gear -> I believe at least, that now Yoshida is afraid to make any changes because he doesn't want to upset anyone anymore -> I make that section of the OP. -> Fire -> We're here!
    There is a problem with this though, the problem being is the diadem information in your OP is incorrect.

    Diadem 1.0 was never nerfed. Some raiders complained, yes, but the gear stayed i210 (same item level as the savage gear at the time). So SE ignored the raider complaints.

    Even Diadem 2.0 they added a weapon better than savage one, it was i280 when savage was i275, if SE was really listening to raider complaints why did they do the same exact thing twice? (and this time it wasn't even just the same item level, it was higher!)

    It makes no sense.

    The majority of players complaining about that i280 weapon was actually relic grinders because the relic had only been completed to i275 nine days before them adding this i280 weapon, some raiders might have complained too, but relic definitely seemed to be the main sticking point and majority issue since it took people a long grind investment only for it to be beaten 9 days after finally completing it.

    As I said to another poster in this thread. You cannot claim diadem didn't come back after the end of HW all because of raiders, since raiders were not the only community of players who complained about diadem. All types of players had criticism about diadem as a whole. The general community consensus that I saw at the time was Diadem was not good content, and in my opinion it wasn't, not because of the gear, simply the content itself.

    So unless you can prove diadem was taken away from us solely due to raiders complaining about the gear in it back in 3.1, with some kind of statement from SE to confirm it, then you shouldn't be using this as a reason to be upset at raiders and/or blame them for things.
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    Last edited by Miste; 09-09-2018 at 10:11 AM.