Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[TalithaSolarien]

I don't think you can get Sastasha HM in Leveling roulette and if you're running 50/60 roulette for exp purposes you're generally better off just queuing for an appropriately leveled dungeon instead as the bonus on that one is quite poor and you don't get much for the enemies once you outpace the dungeon. Getting a 50 dungeon when you're 60 or above is more or less just for the Poetics in my experience.

Still, sounds like that healer had it coming. If you aren't going to bother coming to a dungeon prepared for the incoming mechanics the least you could do is read your chat window...

Could have been a 50/60 dungeon. I actually run these for my leveling alts for the combat experience (how to play a class in a real world situation is very helpful), no for the XP or poetics. PotD or HoH would be faster but teach you absolutely nothing about your class.

[einschwartz]

4.4 is around the corner, so I decided not to delay 4.3 quests any longer especially now that I have upgraded my gear to have enough ilevel for the next trial.

Castrum Fluminis (NM).
I went as RDM and there were also 3 other first timers in the party. Everyone did well on avoiding the fans, the aoes, the add etc. I find Tsukuyomi's animations quite blinding so I was getting a bit disoriented during the 3rd phase.

Then I did the most taboo thing a dps could do in a fight.

I stood beside the MT.

Immediately after realizing this I noticed the cleave tank buster incoming. With my latency, I was not able to dodge in time and died. I laughed at myself for being stupid and apologized. XD The rest of the duty went well.

If the MT and healer involved are reading this, you can mark my words it wasn't intentional.

[Rowde]

Alright, so, it seems if I join a match in PvP and I run into someone like that, I would need to get them vote kicked ASAP and also blacklist them after the duty is over. And since I'm extremely likely to heal, I'll make sure there's a nice big mark on me BEFORE the barrier drops, if I ever go into PvP. Appreciate the insight, as PvP is something I have never done.

Well here is the typical mark protocol that is generally expected...

For 24 player match:
Your Party... Healers marked with shapes.

Enemy Party... numbers. "1" should always be the focus target. Enemy healers can be marked with higher numbers ("4" and "5"), this is not to create a kill order, but again to create positional awareness. If an enemy DPS is marked as "1" and your party is burning them down, then clutch use of interrupts (stun, blank, fluid aura, sleep, silence) on the enemy healer can be the difference between a quick kill, a long kill, or not getting a kill at all.


For 72 player match:
Your Alliance... use different marks for the healers in each party. One party gets shapes, one party gets binds, one party gets ignores (a party with two healers... because there are only two ignores... no on is being rude, it's just practical). It is typically going to be easier/faster for healers to heal the members of their own party versus players in the other parties of the alliance. Particularly for players that use a controller. Using different marks for each party in the alliance helps to quickly differentiate the healers so that the DPS/tanks can run towards their healers if getting focused by the enemy.
However, due to the often more chaotic nature of 72-man sometimes groups get divided up doing multiple objectives. So while it's not ideal to rely on healers in the other parties, it still gives DPS/tanks someone to beeline to when getting focused. In addition, when dividing into small groups (f.e. 4 or 5 ppl go to a small in Shatter) the marks allow the healers to quickly ascertain if and how many healers are peeling off to go with that group (it shouldn't be more than 1 in most cases). Or if a group that peeled off to an objective sees a larger enemy faction incoming, and they don't see a friendly mark nearby... that would allow them to quickly ascertain that a retreat might be the best strategy to avoid the negative points from them getting wiped by the enemy after the objective is complete/lost.

Enemy Alliance... typically the same as 24-man, but enemy healers aren't usually marked at all. Sometimes a kill order is established with targets marked with "1, 2, 3" or another variation that might occur is that each party claims a mark so that they can focus on their own target without unintentionally removing another parties mark (since the marks are all shared by the alliance).

[Frizze]

Ah, my mind went straight to poetics (for Shire gear) when they mentioned gearing up and difficulties in 60+ dungeons. I didn't even think of the Lv70 tomes. Now I'm not sure whether I was on the right track or not.

Only Tiny knows for sure what they meant. If they meant Poetics for shire gear or if they meant current tomes for 70 stuff. With that said, 2 of the 3 you recommended would qualify for both. Alliance gives a good payout on all tomes, and 50/60 is a good payout on creation. Frontline also would have been a good mention. The other roulettes that pay out creation/mendacity all potentially include current content(which i guess alliance does too if you qualify for/have unlocked raba+, though the 50/60 raids seem to get run much more often from it).

[Bhearil]

It happened to a me an hour ago or so:

After leveling up to 61 with my Dragoon i enter Heaven on High to get some sweet XP. When i enter i notice we are Dragoon (me), Ninja, Smn and Bard. I think to myself "Well, no healer and no tank but we should be able to manage if we stick together".

I notice that the Bard has a name similar to "Remove Catboys"(invented name), so i think" Great, seems someone has either bothered to change her name to that or just leveled an alt over lv 61 (since she was on Heaven on High), just to show her desplease of catboys hope doesnt start flaming for anything it happens"

We start doing floors and around 25-26 floor i notice that people is rushing like hell without looking back and on that moment my chest becomes a mimic. I try to kill him asap, but not only manages to pox me but to kill me as well since i had low armor/weapon levels. After 5 mins or so, on which the Smn died as well and probably by another Mimic since he got poxed as well, we both get revived and keep going, but we are 2 poxed persons and no anti pox pomander avaliable.

On the next floor Ninja and Bard keep rushing ahead like some kind of sprinters leaving us, the poxed ones behind, and once again we are unlucky and managed to open at the same time 1 mimic each. We try to do something, the smn even bravely used his pet to hold them, but we were not only poxed but still on sickness from the previous res, so we bite the dust.

Is then when "Remove Catboys" the bard starts snarking a few phrases about how weak we are etc etc. while i was thinking "Well we got unlucky pulling 2 simultaneous mimics, but if you 2 stopped sprinting and came back to help even the first deaths could have been avoided". This is not like PotD where almost everyone is 99/99 and here you actually open chest to level up

After that we keep going we reach the boss and despite me having literally 20 seconds left on pox (the Smn has pox as well since he was poxed 1-2 mins after me) they pull the boss and im forced to use everything to keep me alive since i started at around 20% hp. We managed to kill him with no casualities but "Remove Catboys" the Bard didnt showed enough how much she was of a bitch so she snarks again with a "trash team" after instaleaving

[SenorPatty]

@Bearil

Sometimes, some parties just don't work the way you expected or wish it did in PotD/HoH. If you are on the lower end of the AetherGear range, it's time to use the what I call "Follow the 99s" until you're basically your own boss. Or just able to kill anything 1-on-1 on floors 30 or less in HoH:

-Try to gage as early as possible what kind of 99s you got. If they seem the type that'll give you a hand while you're on the lookout for silvers or they open some chests on their way, then do the same.
-If they're the rush types, avoid the gold chests and stick close to them. Let them engage the enemy first as well.

The last part may sound like bad advice but put it into perspective: First, your aim is to basically get out of that party ASAP without taking a penalty for leaving it and secondly, you're just trying to gain enough AetherGear levels to join 21-30 and then some more levels to basically survive encounters with mimics.

[Bhearil]

Problem is that was the kind of 99 that say "screw ALL the chest, let the peasants loot for us while we cut our way non stop until we reach the teleport", and even if i want exp, i dont want to get 0 upgrade because someone wants to save a few minutes from the run skipping everything

While on theory it might work it doesnt account for triggering mines while fighting mobs, luring traps or mimics munching the people because half of the team is 2 rooms away already, plus i dont see those kind of players complaining when we have 3 free floors due that we bothered to loot chests and got 3 summons, or when during a multipull some luring trap is triggered and chicken pomander saves the day just to mention a few situations

[ko_]

I bucking hate today. Nothing I'm trying to do works. I couldn't get any rath wins this morning, and for some stupid reason I tried to do an expert on whm as I had ok runs on it before. Wiped twice at the start cause I TUCKING SUCK TODAY. Maybe I sucked all the time and luck finally cuaght up. I told the group sorry for wasting their time and I just left. Shit like this makes me want to delete the character and say ruck this. I kucking hate today.

[Paladinleeds]

I bucking hate today. Nothing I'm trying to do works. I couldn't get any rath wins this morning, and for some stupid reason I tried to do an expert on whm as I had ok runs on it before. Wiped twice at the start cause I TUCKING SUCK TODAY. Maybe I sucked all the time and luck finally cuaght up. I told the group sorry for wasting their time and I just left. Shit like this makes me want to delete the character and say ruck this. I kucking hate today.

We all have off-days. That's what you've had. I've had them. I've had days where I've played so badly I literally want to throw my PC out the bloody window. Yorkshireman rage is quite an interesting spectacle let me put it to you that way.

[Azper]

I don't know what it is the past few days, but I've been dumped in with a bunch of trashy premade parties.. I drew Alexander - The Cuff of the Father for my Normal Raid Roulette today. It's the one where it's just a long trash fight with the Gobwalkers and bombs. On release it may have been pertinent to have someone get in one of them and drag the bombs away, but present day it's more valuable to just have everyone contribute towards DPS.

One of the party members hops into a Gobwalker to drag the bombs away, albeit inefficiently as they're still hitting the party. So I just typed, "<insert name> you're more useful out of the gobwalker helping dps." Oh boy, cue the peanut gallery, all from the same server of course, essentially defending him. At one point one of them asks if I've seen some thread about the "speedrun community," but I didn't bother taking the bait.

I'm not asking for a speedrun. I'm not asking to see your logs. I get this is faceroll content and we didn't need your friend to clear the fight. But is it really too much ask for people to actually, you know, contribute something towards the fight rather than absolutely nothing?