New items on the mog station

[SilverObi]

I was aware that they'd changed his script/personality and had to back up on it, but I didn't realised they'd been able to change his emotes as well. Anyway, I got through the game the first time without knowing about it and without really noticing anything was amiss. Maybe because they 'course corrected' early enough that it just seemed like he's becoming more friendly as you get to know him better.

No, I believe Ameme was just saying how they toned down his personality. They didn't adjust emotes or cutscenes

[Bluvirus]

I'm reminded of that Lord of the Dance NPC from early on in ARR that tells the Miqo'te girl that her dancing is so bad that it rivals the Calamity in its abomination unto the realm. Why doesn't he come back and show us more dances? He was funny.

I forgot about him! It would be awesome for him to make a come back

[Theodric]

I have no issue with the cosmetic items sold on the Mog Station. Aside from being a very common business practice in the gaming industry at this point, the items are primarily marketed at those with a disposable income. They're luxury products. Nobody needs to purchase them.

[Neon231]

just want to point out to those people who are like "i cant believe they did this ever since stormblood they been so scummy with mogstaion"

The Huzzah emote was just the limit break animations for the rest of your party and that was release in HW
i agree this should have been a quest reward but they have always been like this with emotes

This emote was given for free during a seasonal event. I used to not have a problem with them releasing old seasonal rewards on the mog station because it made more sense to do that seeing as how I paid $12 that month and those who didn't grab it during the event did not.

But anyway, mog station is a mistake *grabs pitch fork*

[Usho]

HSN...sorry Greedst....MOGSTATION shall not be getting any money from me (unless I want a Fantasia but that's about it). All those emotes could really be in game rewards like with sidequests or something. $7.00 for a emote? HELL NAW. As for the mount...I've seen better. But even still it's not worth almost $25.00 for. I'd take my FREE Falcon mount anyday over another meh pony (yes I'm calling it pony) mount. SE is getting more and more greedy each time I see new items added to mogstation like those emotes for example. Emote should be in game prizes! Sidequests, maybe MSQ rewards, or Gold Saucer mgp prizes...or maybe a Wondorous Tails reward.


Paying for emotes and orchestrion rolls is just...and I'll say this bluntly... LAME. Mounts...I can "maybe" see as cash shop exclusive (though some mounts look like crap anyway). Emotes should never be something you have to pay for in this game. It diminishes a lot of interesting quests they COULD add to the game to get those emotes. But sticking that sh*t on mogstation just further proves how greedy SE is for petty cash.





I for one, won't be spending my money on something that should be a in game reward for effort and fun times, and hope you all won't waste your cash either. Let SE know that they should put new emotes in the game as rewards. Speak with your wallet and don't buy this crap.




/2 cents

[Iscah]

another meh pony (yes I'm calling it pony) mount

Of course it's a pony. Of the "My Little" variety. Look at that pretty frilly barding! (It bears a remarkable resemblance to this one that I still actually own...)

...well okay, either that or Ganondorf's horse. But I thought of the pony first.

[Sigma-Astra]

I'd take my FREE Falcon mount anyday over another meh pony (yes I'm calling it pony) mount.

....It's Lu Bu's actual horse from Dynasty Warriors whom plays off of the real Chinese warlord and general that lived during the late Eastern Han dynasty of Imperial China. It's more than just a "meh pony". The Red Hare was literally part of Chinese history, good lord. The actual horse was probably a Mongolian bred one where they are huge as hell, literally, the Red Hare was complimented throughout history as a "steed who stands among other horses" because Lu Bu was stated as a "man who stands out among other men".

It was part of the Chinese cash shop and holds a significant value towards them because of the history behind it. But, since people from the West also like playing Dynasty Warriors and know of Lu Bu's history, that's probably why it ended up in ours as well.

Why on earth should something be "free" because you don't understand it's worth or value when people had to pay for it in the Chinese cash shop regardless?

[Noodle_Trinidad]

I have no issue with the cosmetic items sold on the Mog Station. Aside from being a very common business practice in the gaming industry at this point, the items are primarily marketed at those with a disposable income. They're luxury products. Nobody needs to purchase them.

Except if you start labeling them as "Luxury Items" you need to start questioning the validity of our Monthly Subscription and why we're even paying for it in the first place if certain items are being paywalled as "Luxury". The only games that should even have items of that nature should be Buy2Play or Free2Play games in which they either are sustained by first time purchases or cash shop purchases, games in which have no steady flow of revenue coming in on a monthly basis. FFXIV is not one of those games as it not only makes money on the base game purchase and expansion purchases but gets money on a monthly basis from people trying to access it in the first place.

It's true that nobody needs to purchase them but at the same time the argument can be made that there is no need to put them on the cash shop to begin with. Edda's outfit? Why not make it a Floor 150+ Reward item that you can possibly get? Sleipnir? Shove him into the Odin FATE as a rare as hell drop or even the Odin Trial. All non-promotional glamours, mounts and emotes? Well you have crafters that can benefit from having more glamour recipes in-game, an achievement based system or other duties in-game that can benefit from adding mounts as incentives and emotes? Add them into side-quests or for things like Teraflare and Power Up could have attached them to SMN/MNK related quests to make them feel more thematic alongside giving incentives for people to branch out to those classes if they haven't. And to finish the list, Event Items should be added back to their Event vendors every year.

Nothing in this game should be paywalled when access to the games and its forum itself are paywalled themselves, or rather to rephrase that Nothing that isn't part of an actual promotion such as the Amazon, 7/11, Fanfest or Physical Rewards should be put up on the Mogshop.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Except if you start labeling them as "Luxury Items" you need to start questioning the validity of our Monthly Subscription and why we're even paying for it in the first place if certain items are being paywalled as "Luxury".

Our monthly sub covers the major patch content releases. With 4.4 on the horizon, this will include:

- MSQ
- Suzaku (Normal and Extreme)
- Alphascape (Normal and Savage)
- Hildabrand (4.45)
- Eureka Pyros (4.45)
- Quality of Life (Minion and Mount search updates)
- Mannequins
- Lost Canals update
- New tomestone and Alphascape gear
- The Burn and Saint Mocianne's Arboretum Hard

Now it's debatable on the quality of this content, but that's what our sub covers. Insinuating because they toss a mount or emote on the Mogstation that our sub loses value is very disingenuous. Do I think they're getting a little carried away? Yes. But they are, indeed, luxury items.

[Noodle_Trinidad]

Now it's debatable on the quality of this content, but that's what our sub covers. Insinuating because they toss a mount or emote on the Mogstation that our sub loses value is very disingenuous. Do I think they're getting a little carried away? Yes. But they are, indeed, luxury items.

Our sub covers anything content related for the game from cosmetics to actual gameplay, to say that our sub doesnt lose value when many things that are not part of a promotion are tossed into the Mogshop is not disingenuous given many of these things are made upon the revenue brought upon our sub cost. Outside of maybe the Chinese items which are indeed commissioned by the branch maintaining their Chinese builds most of the items are done with the resources allocated to this game by SE which will take into account the Monthly Revenue it makes.

Why are many things that so easily fit in this game as rewards for in-game events, recipes for crafters or incentives for classes constantly being shoved into the Mog Shop? Was it not Yoshida himself who said that the Mog Shop was going to be a way to reintroduce event items, something that I don't agree with in the slighest, so why is it that we have branched into a Cash Shop that is around 380 items large when its only competitor WoW has nothing in that scale after its 14 years in operation? I mean lets go one step further to just further cement the constant F2P tactics that this is going with, The Companion App. What should have been a small helper to part of the playerbase akin to WoW's Companion Apps or Warframe's companion app has easily become one of SE's biggest cashgrabs to date. Limited interactions without Kupo Nuts with 10 being the max on a Premium User still enforcing the need to use more money to have more interactions if you so desired. I think we really need to start asking with the constant addition of non-promotion cash shop items such as emotes or glamours, the Pony itself is fine given it is a Chinese Promotional mount, on top of an App asking for another subscription to get the most out of it without abusing its microtransactions why we even have a Subscription in the first place?

Why are we going to arbitrarily draw a line on "Well with our sub we get "x","y" and "z" " when the subscription based model itself is built to avoid having to go down the Cash Shop route? I mean if you want to make the argument of "Well Square Enix doesn't give enough funds to FFXIV and all the Mogshop money goes back to them" then once again I ask "Why are we a subscription based game then?" if the game is now suffering a financial burden that it has to follow what other Free2Play's suffer where the only money they know their solely getting comes straight from their cash shops?