White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[MomomiMomi]

$300 is $300? No way. I love how you state that with such conviction. So adorable.

As far as not knowing the value of money. That is entirely different. $300 is not an amount of money, especially over 5 years, that will affect me one way or the other. It’s not significant enough of an amount for me to notice either way. It’s too small. Just like most people wouldn’t miss 0.50 here or 0.75 there. It still has value, but due to its size, it lacks significance.

I can try to explain it to you, but I can’t inderstand it for you. Sorry not sorry.

Probably one of the most condescending people I've seen on these forums. Such a sad thing to witness.

[Istaru]

Probably one of the most condescending people I've seen on these forums. Such a sad thing to witness.

Only probably?

I have to try harder next time.

[Dualgunner]

Probably one of the most condescending people I've seen on these forums. Such a sad thing to witness.

There is a point to be made that Money over Time is not Money, just like Distance over Time is not Distance. They're separate measurements entirely, and when broken down, $300 over five years is about $0.16 a day, which is almost not even worth thinking about for the average citizen of the united states.

Only probably?

I have to try harder next time.

You're really not helping any kind of case you have by acting like this. Just looking at Momomi alone, you've already got her looking at the tone of your argument more than your argument, and it's understandable why they would be attracted to your combative method of communication.

[Istaru]

You're really not helping any kind of case you have by acting like this. Just looking at Momomi alone, you've already got her looking at the tone of your argument more than your argument, and it's understandable why they would be attracted to your combative method of communication.

Thank you for the advice, being serious on that statement. I believe you are being sincere.

Before anyone tells me, I know the internet is full of cheaters and liars. I don’t care.

Also serious, most people on these forums barely read a damn thing anyone posts, or considers anything before attacking or strawmanning the living crap out of the person they respond to.

It’s kinda sad, was having a mostly civil conversation until that clown had to jump in and crap all over the place.

[MomomiMomi]

There is a point to be made that Money over Time is not Money, just like Distance over Time is not Distance. They're separate measurements entirely, and when broken down, $300 over five years is about $0.16 a day, which is almost not even worth thinking about for the average citizen of the united states.

Sure, but $300 is still $300, and anyone would be happy to have them rather than not. Those $300 are still going to buy you the same amount of stuff no matter how much money you have, and having them is better than not.

[Dualgunner]

Thank you for the advice, being serious on that statement. I believe you are being sincere.

No problem ^^ I get pretty heated too. I did it earlier in this thread, and honestly I still feel kind of stupid about it.

Sure, but $300 is still $300, and anyone would be happy to have them rather than not. Those $300 are still going to buy you the same amount of stuff no matter how much money you have, and having them is better than not.

That's perfectly true. It depends on the perspective you look at it from.
Napkin math:
I've played for 1,620 days; roughly 4 and a half years. Multiply by 12 for months; roughly 53, and then multiply by 15 for cost per month (I get the 3 month bundle, but I didn't always so I'll just use this, and not count the free months from buying the ps4 version and pc version): that's about $798, if my math isn't too terribly off.

$800 could get me a GTX1080Ti, or a GTX2080. It's a lot of money, especially for me.

Divide that by 1,620: 0.49. So I've been paying roughly $0.49 per day to access this game for 4 and a half years. While the total cost may still be the same, it's a lot easier to swallow the cost presented like this, because instead of looking at it as "With the money I'd have saved not playing XIV over 4 and a half years I could have gotten a GTX2080!" and more as "Well what else was I gonna pay half a dollar for today?"

TL;DR: I get where she's coming from, and I get where you're coming from, and I think they're both valid points of view on the money presented here.

[Istaru]

Sure, but $300 is still $300, and anyone would be happy to have them rather than not. Those $300 are still going to buy you the same amount of stuff no matter how much money you have, and having them is better than not.

What you say is factually correct. I’m going to be nice and have a discussion with you, I should not have reacted with the same disgust as I did with that thing earlier. I apologize for my reply.

The conversation originally started off about relative value. Your statement is about absolute value. They are different things.

Would I sit in a 40°C room for 24 hours for a $300 remittance? The answer is no, my comfort is worth more to me than gaining $300. Relatively speaking, the $300 has less value. Its kinda why we buy air conditioning units and pay the electric bills that come with them.

As consumers, we assign relative value to everything, it’s how we decide if we want to spend X amount on product Y. We give them a valuation and buy when it is equal to or less than that valuation, and abstain when it is greater. That valuation is unique to every person and every item. They are relative to them.

Example: I am looking at LED memory chips for my computer, I’m not actually, just an example. I have perfectly functioning memory chips, but I want ones I can show off with when I’m streaming. They cost $600. For some people, they will decide that they are worth the expense based upon their valuation. Others will opt out due to the price not being in line with the value they personally signed.

I agree with dual, the fact it is over time does have an effect on the relative value. Since it is only $5 at a time, it is not as significant as if it was a single cost of $300. Personally, I see them very differently.

[MomomiMomi]

What you say is factually correct. I’m going to be nice and have a discussion with you, I should not have reacted with the same disgust as I did with that thing earlier. I apologize for my reply.

The conversation originally started off about relative value. Your statement is about absolute value. They are different things.

Would I sit in a 40°C room for 24 hours for a $300 remittance? The answer is no, my comfort is worth more to me than gaining $300. Relatively speaking, the $300 has less value. Its kinda why we buy air conditioning units and pay the electric bills that come with them.

As consumers, we assign relative value to everything, it’s how we decide if we want to spend X amount on product Y. We give them a valuation and buy when it is equal to or less than that valuation, and abstain when it is greater. That valuation is unique to every person and every item. They are relative to them.

Example: I am looking at LED memory chips for my computer, I’m not actually, just an example. I have perfectly functioning memory chips, but I want ones I can show off with when I’m streaming. They cost $600. For some people, they will decide that they are worth the expense based upon their valuation. Others will opt out due to the price not being in line with the value they personally signed.

I agree with dual, the fact it is over time does have an effect on the relative value. Since it is only $5 at a time, it is not as significant as if it was a single cost of $300. Personally, I see them very differently.

I see where you're coming from. Also, I apologize earlier for saying "people" and not "posts." That post may not have been indicative of how you generally are. Though if you are that way, then hey, that's just how you are I guess.

Looking at the relative value of it, I see it as a 33% discount. That's pretty large, and a 33% discount on anything is a great thing. You did have to pay a bit to achieve it, though, so that does devalue it a little bit.