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  1. #631
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    It doesn't matter. Does me clearing UwU entitle me to everything in the original Ultimate or vice versa? No it doesn't. You do the fight for the reward, and if you can't do the fight, then sad face for you.

    champ
    UCoB wasn't removed from the game, Rivenroad was. If UCoB was a 5 year old fight and UwU was actually related to UCoB I would say yes, nothing wrong with the rewards being made available again.

    Unlike you I'm not obsessed with timed exclusives and artificial scarcity, and I'm glad SE is agreeing, so you're on the losing side right now. I hope feast mounts are next in the list.
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  2. #632
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    I'll be sure to notify the community that they are not allowed to complain about ANYTHING in this game because SE gonna do what SE gonna do. I hope for your sake you never complained about anything SE did otherwise that would be pretty hypocritical of you.

    Buddy
    It's not the fact of people complaining or not, but you seem to be acting, or putting across as though we've had an option as to how we can obtain these. Like I said yesterday, nobody here has asked for them, let alone ask for them to be handouts. We never even made that choice. Let me make it clear, when I, or normal people complain, we generally complain about stuff that can change and can be implemented (If you said call them replicas or select an alternative then yes, granted you can have that and it'd be a valid and reasonable argument) . But saying nobody deserves them when the fight is not even in the game anymore, and probably was created on a different engine. Let me just go clear a fight that doesn't exist...

    Friend

    EDIT: I could create a poll, and have everyone in this thread and I would put significant stakes that the majority would say, we'd rather have the original fight, and participate on difficulty at the time, versus farming FATEs or doing a repeatable solo instance. I could guarantee that. Like I said whether we deserve them or not is irrelevant.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 08-24-2018 at 10:40 AM.

  3. #633
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    For all we know we will revisit that fight. Doubt it will be tough though. Didn't look hard to do the first time.
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  4. #634
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Actually come up with a good debate and stop trolling and maybe I'll take you as a serious person to have a worthy discussion with.
    Oh you are so cute! :>

    Has so much pride that they can't admit they don't deserve something and instead calls the person a troll.

    You try really hard to avoid the question my friend, I admire the dedication, while I don't admire the motivation behind it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    It's not the fact of people complaining or not, but you seem to be acting, or putting across as though we've had an option as to how we can obtain these. Like I said yesterday, nobody here has asked for them, let alone ask for them to be handouts. We never even made that choice. Let me make it clear, when I, or normal people complain, we generally complain about stuff that can change and can be implemented (If you said call them replicas or select an alternative then yes, granted you can have that and it'd be a valid and reasonable argument) . But saying nobody deserves them when the fight is not even in the game anymore, and probably was created on a different engine. Let me just go clear a fight that doesn't exist...

    Friend
    You specifically made the claim that nothing matters cause SE is going to do what it wants, so yes you did say that people shouldn't complain before the mighty devs.

    And the fact the fight doesn't exist anymore isn't relevant. The item was meant for people that cleared that fight and nothing else. A lot of people, including you, have a hard time of admitting that fact.
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  5. #635
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Oh you are so cute! :>

    Has so much pride that they can't admit they don't deserve something and instead calls the person a troll.

    You try really hard to avoid the question my friend, I admire the dedication, while I don't admire the motivation behind it.




    You specifically made the claim that nothing matters cause SE is going to do what it wants, so yes you did say that people shouldn't complain before the mighty devs.

    And the fact the fight doesn't exist anymore isn't relevant. The item was meant for people that cleared that fight and nothing else. A lot of people, including you, have a hard time of admitting that fact.
    Well I'm glad we're finally getting somewhere, and yes specifically in relation to this topic because you're giving the tone that we actually want these as handouts. Know what's going to happen? People will complete this event, possibly grind it if they care enough, then those earrings will immediately go into someone's retainer to just be hoarded. I can assure you most people won't take pride in these earrings and they won't care very much for them.

    Perhaps it isn't relevant, but you know what is? The fact that nobody in here lately has even complained about the means of getting them, just whether they stay exclusive, if you read the majority, or even a fraction of the comments it would be made pretty clear people have been arguing whether they should stay exclusive or not, and why promises get broken. Not how they should be achieved, or whether we deserve them for free or not. Granted your initial claim would actually hold some weight if people were complaining that we should get them for free. But nobody has, or those that have are in the minority.
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  6. #636
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Oh you are so cute! :>
    Why thank you! I do think my character is pretty darn cute too! ^______^

    What else you got for me fam? Because, that is some low quality bait.
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  7. #637
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Why thank you! I do think my character is pretty darn cute too! ^______^
    Yeah, preps on the skintone
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  8. #638
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    Kya Purrcy
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    I highly recommend this series and the one by The Speaker's Network

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0y...HiYqWoTsHQAYcw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ9C...x4HT5oBemN23vr

    For those who never got to play, or chose not to play, reasons don't matter. Might let you understand why some ppl feel the way they do, or might not. Either way, both series' are well compiled and executed.
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    Last edited by Yoruichi4478; 08-24-2018 at 11:07 AM.

  9. #639
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Yeah, preps on the skintone
    She was actually based on a long-standing and still thriving role-play character (from IRC, not an MMO)...but this Soma obviously had to be tweaked a bit from the original Soma just a tad.

    I don't role-play in XIV, but lots of my characters from MMO's come from the IRC stuff I've done in the past and present.

    That's the smartest thing that poster has said so far.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 08-24-2018 at 11:54 AM.

  10. #640
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    It's really baffling seeing some people obsess over timed exclusives as if they're the only meaningful things in their lives.

    I bought both the Shiva and Odin statues purely for the emotes that came with them. I didn't do it for the sake of bragging rights, I did it because I thought they were neat and I happen to have a disposable income.

    They set me back roughly £200. I've spent much more than that on cosmetics. The Mog Station could be updated tomorrow to sell the emotes for £5 and it wouldn't bother me. They could be added to the game as part of a quest reward and that wouldn't bother me either.

    I feel the same way about anything I've earned in the game itself. I earn or buy things because I want to be able to enjoy them. If other people happen to be given easier access to the things I acquired then I consider that to be perfectly fine. In fact, I encourage it since it means that both friends and strangers alike are able to enjoy them as well.

    The players who seem to only find enjoyment by denying others something neat are not the sort of players I want this game to cater to moving forward.
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