We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[RiyahArp]

FFXI was also an imbalanced mess half the time. You had builds that were straight garbage—to the point people wouldn't invite you. We may meme on BLM and SAM, however neither are even close to the level of ostracization you saw in FFXI.

I'd take that level of ostracization if I could have jobs like FFXI. I'd be perfectly happy switching to an alt class in endgame if I had something like puppetmaster for casual content. I played BST, yeah they were ostracized, but we could just make our own pet parties and do things, or we could even solo things no one else bothered with. It would probably work even better in this game, since casual content is forgiving enough we don't need to optimize as much.

[Vaer]

I'd take that level of ostracization if I could have jobs like FFXI. I'd be perfectly happy switching to an alt class in endgame if I had something like puppetmaster for casual content. I played BST, yeah they were ostracized, but we could just make our own pet parties and do things, or we could even solo things no one else bothered with. It would probably work even better in this game, since casual content is forgiving enough we don't need to optimize as much.

That's not necessary now though, back then most jobs couldn't solo worth anything so those jobs had a place as a niche, now all jobs can solo so it would be relatively pointless to have a job like that. The job closest to that niche is RDM which has a niche in Deep Dungeon.

I mean I guess you could have a job that is good for soloing in Eureka, but who would even care.. seems like a waste of dev time when they could have a cool new job that could be close or on par with existing jobs with a new playstyle for all content vs. a niche job that is a dumpster spec in group content but good at solo content that everyone else could do anyway. It's just not the same.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I'd take that level of ostracization if I could have jobs like FFXI. I'd be perfectly happy switching to an alt class in endgame if I had something like puppetmaster for casual content. I played BST, yeah they were ostracized, but we could just make our own pet parties and do things, or we could even solo things no one else bothered with. It would probably work even better in this game, since casual content is forgiving enough we don't need to optimize as much.

You might, but the playerbase as a whole feels quite differently given reactions we see here or on reddit. The constant whining about groups refusing to take Samurais, debating the meta and etc would all become that much worse. They don't design jobs just to do the casual content. They want them to be viable in everything, which simply wasn't the case in FFXI. You can ask how Paladin mains felt in Heavensward, or White Mages after the Astro Balance buff. Both were treated as a meme because Dark Knight and Astro were simply better at virtually everything.