We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[Edax]

Hyo edited her post to say this but I'll just say again:

Let's assume you can craft your way to i370. Congratulations, you're now i370. For the next six months. How does this solve your issue regarding gear stagnation in any way, shape, or form? You're not going to run duties at all at this point, because you hate running duties as far as I'm aware. So getting the gear to make running duties faster is also a moot point. If all you like doing in this game is crafting and gaming the marketboard, then better gear obviously doesn't help with that.

EDIT: Better battlecraft gear, I should say.

You have a whole other branch of progression wholly unique to crafters and gatherers as well. If your stances are as you say they are, then DoL/DoH progression should matter much more to you than DoW/DoM.

Too much of this game's content is tied to combat to go down that road. MSQ, new duties and new raids, I need decent gear if I'm going to experience them. Since I don't endlessly repeat duties and raids, I don't really benefit from those reward systems and my less experience with those raids and duties require me to go in with better gear so as to not be that much of a burden to the team.

[Dualgunner]

Too much of this game's content is tied to combat to go down that road. MSQ, new duties and new raids, I need decent gear if I'm going to experience them. Since I don't endlessly repeat duties and raids, I don't really benefit from those reward systems and my less experience with those raids and duties require me to go in with better gear so as to not be that much of a burden to the team.

Crafted gear is the best you need regarding MSQ and new trials. Raids are wholly unrelated to the main story and unnecessary, and if you hate duties as much as you claim, why do you run even NM raids? Which, btw, crafted gear is still OP for since it rewards the same level gear as one can craft.

[Edax]

Crafted gear is the best you need regarding MSQ and new trials. Raids are wholly unrelated to the main story and unnecessary, and if you hate duties as much as you claim, why do you run even NM raids? Which, btw, crafted gear is still OP for since it rewards the same level gear as one can craft.

It's new content to experience. I don't hate raids and duties when I'm first experiencing them, I'm seeing new sights and seeing new content. But the cycle of repetition, of repeating duties and raids is that I don't find fun. You really have to commit to the repetition to see the rewards. I've killed Ex-Death like 30 times to get a certain set of Samurai gear for the glamour, but it was an aggravating experience. It was fun learning the fights of Deltascape at first, the requirements to actually get armor out of the fights is just something that kills the fun of it for me.

[Magic-Mal]

See all of this could be solved if we simply had more paths to get gear of the same ilvl but not the same stats. Say there's 4 sets of i370 available all gotten through different methods..

Tome i370 Chest: Critical Hit/Skill Speed
Raid i370 Chest: Critical Hit/Determination
Other i370 Chest #1: Critical Hit/Direct Hit
Other i370 Chest #2: Skill Speed/Determination

That's horizontal progression. Raid gear isn't even the best gear because the whole set itself isn't BiS it just has high ilvl. As HyoMin said earlier, there are a ton of things that are better than raid gear to make BiS sets. Which is what I was referring too. More options to progress but not getting raid gear. I'm talking about other gear.

If your BiS involves a raid piece you will still have no choice but to do that raid to get it. And there's nothing wrong with that. Issue is that if you don't want the raid piece and the tome piece is trash, you can't have a backup C and D. Maybe backup D comes second to Raid while tome is dead last. Or maybe Raid somehow comes second to backup C so you'd rather get that instead when the patch rolls out. No different than Tome vs Raid. We need some progression like that.

[MoroMurasaki]

Too much of this game's content is tied to combat to go down that road. MSQ, new duties and new raids, I need decent gear if I'm going to experience them. Since I don't endlessly repeat duties and raids, I don't really benefit from those reward systems and my less experience with those raids and duties require me to go in with better gear so as to not be that much of a burden to the team.

Would you honestly be okay if people could progress their crafting and gathering gear via combat-based options? You're basically asking that you be allowed to get top-tier gear for the content you don't spend as much time in but if they did this in reverse as well it would completely crash the market and your gil would definitely stop piling up.

In my opinion crafters already have enough of a gearing advantage because they can begin a patch essentially at the soft ilvl cap.