Secondary Spawn Condition for Pagos NMs

[Malzian]

A random mob of another species needs to be killed, in addition to a number of mobs of a set species.

Source:
1. Six hours into an instance, one small group was doing crabs, another was doing worms. There were about 15 people total in the instance. I killed about two to three Zombie Wyverns and the worm spawned and after it was the crab king. Neither had spawned in the six hours prior.

2. After I was the only one left in the instance, I spawned King Igloo after killing a single Mirror Knight. King Igloo was off cooldown for a while. I let King Igloo expire. I was going to attempt to spawn Anapos with random mobs, but decided to wait a minute after Igloo in case it was blocking another NM. In that minute, the billygoat NM spawned.

3. New instance with few players. I killed 26 water sprites and switched to Matamata. Anapos spawned within three kills.

All spawns were as the mob died. The theory makes much sense where Cassie spawns are concernced: Cassie wouldn't spawn because the other mob wasn't being killed. How many groups kill Chimera or Griffins?

The community can compare data to determine further specifics.

Correlation != Causation

[alimdia]

Correlation != Causation

Although this is true, we do have one fact, NMs aren't spawning when their condition is met, so something is preventing spawn.

[Rufalus]

Correlation != Causation

Sure but it can be worth exploring theories and testing many times to gather data.

[Malzian]

Although this is true, we do have one fact, NMs aren't spawning when their condition is met, so something is preventing spawn.

I figure it's more like hunt spawning, where fulfilling the condition doesn't always spawn the monster immediately, there may be some built in randomness that keeps them from spawning or there could be other things such as weather that contribute to it. I'm just saying that one must be mindful of claiming a causal link due to "A happening when I do B". I actually believe the source of "this spawns that" in Eureka comes from datamining more than direct evidence, otherwise there would be no way that a tracker with spawn monsters would have been available the second day the content was live.

Sure but it can be worth exploring theories and testing many times to gather data.

Yes, exploring theories is fine, but the initial post was stated as "you must kill this additional monster for this NM to spawn because I had this anecdotal experience where it happened that way." It's fine to post the hypothesis as such, but you can't claim it as truth until it has been rigorously verified.

[Rufalus]

Yes, exploring theories is fine, but the initial post was stated as "you must kill this additional monster for this NM to spawn because I had this anecdotal experience where it happened that way." It's fine to post the hypothesis as such, but you can't claim it as truth until it has been rigorously verified.

I think they are being misquoted, it was just the anecdote and then they used the word 'theory', didn't state as fact. I'm reading it as proposing something to be verified.