We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[Usho]

Yoshi has demonstrated time and time again that he is willing to listen to players and try to work with them in making this game something everyone is happy to play, however, they have to draw a line somewhere where what players may like may not work or fit with the way the game is designed or functions. It is simply not possible for them to add every "good idea" that a player may have or request. That is just being realistic. So "wishing for him to be replaced" simply because your demands are not met just comes across as spiteful and unappreciative for everything he has done and continues to do for this game and it's millions of players.

This paragraph triggered me a bit so I felt the need to add in my 2 cents. First of all, yes, he did save and revive the game. Nice THANK YOU...I guess? But the man has been at the helm for 5 YEARS now and til this day, he refuses to change the formula and cycle of repetitve content patches. He says sh*t like "This has NEVER been done in any MMO!" yet...where's the "never been done before" content who preached about? I've seen NONE. Everything that Stormblood as offered so far has been nothing short of disappointment. He keeps repackaging old content and delivers them as something "new" but it's just old sh*t but with a new coat of paint.



The gear progression system is such failure. The gear has no lasting value other than glamour. Vast amount of gear looks overly feminine (Stormblood leveling caster bodies anyone?), and they become obsolete every 3 months to the point that wtf is the point of grinding for anything at all when it's soon gonna be going into the virtual trashcan? Gear has no bonuses, nothing to make them worth keeping (other than maybe glamour). It's fail. At least in FFXI, even when new gear came out, you were encouraged to keep old gear cause they still had value and they had bonuses on them like weaponskill bonuses or elemental bonuses for casters, but the gear in this game offers you none of that.

It makes grinding for stuff like relics and anima feel like a complete waste of time and effort for little reward. Getting gear offers no real sense of accomplishment or achievement personally.

The reason most of us want Yoshi replaced is because he, contrary to your claims, doesn't really seem to care much about what the players want. A lot of us want him to take risks that benefit the game and it's longevity.

We want him to end the repetitive formula of content. We want him to improve the housing system cause it's still flawed as all hell. We want him to stop repackaging old content and delivering them as new content when CLEARLY it isn't. We want him to make gear more RELEVANT and worth keeping beyond just for glamour.


We want him to make content that has SOUL. Eureka is a prime example of terrible design. A FFXIV youtuber called Eureka a "love letter to FFXI". Honestly, I call BS on that. Eureka is terrible representation of FFXI and should not have been made. We want him to make the OVERWORLD worth exploring, increase the monster levels, make them threatening, challenging! SoA FFXI did this VERY well at SoA's launch. Even Mandragoras could kick your ass. We want THAT.


The overworld is lacking. No matter what expansions he makes, if he keeps the formula as is, the overworld will STILL not be worth exploring.

I'll end with this: If we had a new director who actually took the training wheels off and actually made NEW content and not rehash making us think their new, then the game would benefit ALOT more. Yoshi-Pees has no real understanding of what players want. This isn't even a mmo to me.


To me, this game plays like a single player FF game. If I wanted a single player FF game that thought it was a MMO, I'd play FFXII. As long as Yoshi is in charge, this game will not have a great future, but will have a terrible ending. I don't want this game to suffer when it has the potential to be much better than it is now. But Yoshi won't allow it to improve and he is holding the game back. It's time to go.




/2 cents

[Claviusnex]

Okay so if you don't raid why do you need raid level gear? If you think non raid gear aren't worth getting because they are not as good as raid gear then why don't you just start raiding?

You've brought up something I've never understood and it isn't just tied to FF XIV but all the MMOs I've played. Why do people get so upset that they can't get high level gear when they don't/won't run high level content? Due to my age I stick to normal or tourist level instanced combat. I just don't have the reflexes and response time to do savage, ultimate, mythic or whatever you want to call it stuff anymore. By the time I collect all of the gear in the content I run I out level it anyway so it isn't like I need the highest ilvl BiS stuff to complete the instances or wander around the open world. Maybe its my age but I just don't get the sour grapes.

[Vrankyl]

This paragraph triggered me a bit so I felt the need to add in my 2 cents. First of all, yes, he did save and revive the game. Nice THANK YOU...I guess? But the man has been at the helm for 5 YEARS now and til this day, he refuses to change the formula and cycle of repetitve content patches. He says sh*t like "This has NEVER been done in any MMO!" yet...where's the "never been done before" content who preached about? I've seen NONE. Everything that Stormblood as offered so far has been nothing short of disappointment. He keeps repackaging old content and delivers them as something "new" but it's just old sh*t but with a new coat of paint.

I just wanted to point out with this that the 'Never done before in an MMO' thing was mistranslated. What was actually said was 'Never done before in our MMO' and it was in regards to the feature shown at the end of the 4.3 MSQ. Which he was correct, that was something that was never seen before in FF14, so he didn't actually say anything factually incorrect there.

That said I do agree that there could be some changes made to FF14, if you don't savage raid there is less and less to do each patch especially with them artificially extending the content by releasing it throughout the course of the patch cycle instead of the main patch itself. It would also be nice if they did try things a bit more, or at least innovate based on how players actually play the game rather than throw a tantrum and force their intended style down our throats ala Pagos style. I've seen a lot of really good ideas floating around the threads discussing Pagos and it's sad because I have no hope what so ever that any of it will be taken to heart by SE as something to add.

Off the top of my head:
-i180 Law gear.. Onishi?
-Little Ladies' Day outfit 2016
-Moonfire Yukata(Hope I'm spelling it right)
-Current crafter gear
-Azim Steppe crafter gear
-Bardam's Mettle gear
-Shisui gear and the 2017 Moonfire
-Doma Castle gear
-Kugane Castle/Temple of Fist gear
-Genta/Genji gear
-Mendacity gear
- 4.0 Oni PvP gear
-Ao Dai
-Taoist's set

MogStation:
-Eastern Journey
-The newest Chinese glamour
-Far Eastern Lady/Lord set
-Korean set 1
-Korean set 2(Sorry forgot their names but they're in there)

We have alot of Asian gear. We just don't have alot of SAM gear. But we definitely have alot of Asian gear.

Also a couple of corrections to this list. The Doma Castle gear and the i180 Law gear are the exact same sets, so really shouldn't be separated. The only difference between them is you can dye the i180 Law gear. As for the Azim Steppe crafter/gatherer gear and the Bardam's Mettle gear they don't really belong in this list either. They are Mongol themed gear which is a vastly different style from the Oriental style used in all the other sets, yes it is Asian but they really are out of place with the over all style of the other sets. I will agree that we haven't gotten much in the way of Ala Mhigan gear, but on the same token one can say that their gear all sort of... seems a bit similar when you do look at the sets.

Balsaar's Wall is Ala Mhigan resistance gear
Level 68 crafted gear is Ala Mhigan
Castrum Abania and the Farlander gear from Hell's Lid is Ala Mhigan
The i310 gear is Ala Mhigan ((Totally forgot the ilvl of the first sb tome gear, fixed it))
And the prior top crafter/gatherer crafted gear was Ala Mhigan
I also suspect that the Suspenders glam gear was Ala Mhigan as well.

So there is room for more, but on the same token it's not a bad start.

[Magic-Mal]

Also a couple of corrections to this list. The Doma Castle gear and the i180 Law gear are the exact same sets, so really shouldn't be separated. The only difference between them is you can dye the i180 Law gear.

Are they really? Wowow. That makes it even worse. So that's 2 out of 5 leveling dungeons that gave recolored HW gear. That's pretty bad..

[Ruf]

This paragraph triggered me a bit so I felt the need to add in my 2 cents. First of all, yes, he did save and revive the game. Nice THANK YOU...I guess? But the man has been at the helm for 5 YEARS now and til this day, he refuses to change the formula and cycle of repetitve content patches. He says sh*t like "This has NEVER been done in any MMO!" yet...where's the "never been done before" content who preached about? I've seen NONE. Everything that Stormblood as offered so far has been nothing short of disappointment. He keeps repackaging old content and delivers them as something "new" but it's just old sh*t but with a new coat of paint.



The gear progression system is such failure. The gear has no lasting value other than glamour. Vast amount of gear looks overly feminine (Stormblood leveling caster bodies anyone?), and they become obsolete every 3 months to the point that wtf is the point of grinding for anything at all when it's soon gonna be going into the virtual trashcan? Gear has no bonuses, nothing to make them worth keeping (other than maybe glamour). It's fail. At least in FFXI, even when new gear came out, you were encouraged to keep old gear cause they still had value and they had bonuses on them like weaponskill bonuses or elemental bonuses for casters, but the gear in this game offers you none of that.

It makes grinding for stuff like relics and anima feel like a complete waste of time and effort for little reward. Getting gear offers no real sense of accomplishment or achievement personally.

The reason most of us want Yoshi replaced is because he, contrary to your claims, doesn't really seem to care much about what the players want. A lot of us want him to take risks that benefit the game and it's longevity.

We want him to end the repetitive formula of content. We want him to improve the housing system cause it's still flawed as all hell. We want him to stop repackaging old content and delivering them as new content when CLEARLY it isn't. We want him to make gear more RELEVANT and worth keeping beyond just for glamour.


We want him to make content that has SOUL. Eureka is a prime example of terrible design. A FFXIV youtuber called Eureka a "love letter to FFXI". Honestly, I call BS on that. Eureka is terrible representation of FFXI and should not have been made. We want him to make the OVERWORLD worth exploring, increase the monster levels, make them threatening, challenging! SoA FFXI did this VERY well at SoA's launch. Even Mandragoras could kick your ass. We want THAT.


The overworld is lacking. No matter what expansions he makes, if he keeps the formula as is, the overworld will STILL not be worth exploring.

I'll end with this: If we had a new director who actually took the training wheels off and actually made NEW content and not rehash making us think their new, then the game would benefit ALOT more. Yoshi-Pees has no real understanding of what players want. This isn't even a mmo to me.


To me, this game plays like a single player FF game. If I wanted a single player FF game that thought it was a MMO, I'd play FFXII. As long as Yoshi is in charge, this game will not have a great future, but will have a terrible ending. I don't want this game to suffer when it has the potential to be much better than it is now. But Yoshi won't allow it to improve and he is holding the game back. It's time to go.




/2 cents

This isn't even a mmo to me!

[Gleipni]

I agree 300% here,everything as been said,from the big empty map,the flying mount that ruin the immersion,and the fact dev make only flying mount out of laziness,the trial that are alwasy the same,dungeion 24 man raid,thank youf or your post,hoping the dev realise they are going on the opposite way of what player wants.

[Edax]

Flying has took any and all purpose of maps away. Who cares about whatever the map is made out of? Who cares what enemies are there? Who cares about how beautiful the maps are? In the end, we are just auto-flying over everything in the map to get to whatever our errand is then teleporting off. How can we have any sort of difficulty when we can fly over any sort of danger? There's no adventure, not even when getting map achievements because 1. You just fly over the unmapped area and 2. You already know there's going to be nothing there anyway so whatever.

Do people really consider the idea of swimming across the Ruby Sea "fun" whenever they have to get to Yanxia of the Steppe? This would just encourage everyone to just teleport to the aethernets and bypass the entire zone altogether. The maps would be even more worthless if it took forever to get to the dailies.

[Magic-Mal]

Do people really consider the idea of swimming across the Ruby Sea "fun" whenever they have to get to Yanxia of the Steppe? This would just encourage everyone to just teleport to the aethernets and bypass the entire zone altogether. The maps would be even more worthless if it took forever to get to the dailies.

Well I personally enjoyed swimming. I'd also enjoy having mounts swim as well. Now diving was something I disliked. Simply because of the pure emptiness and how the devs handled mount diving and having birds flying in the water.

I never mentioned getting rid of teleporting. We can keep that imo. As long as the the crystals are well-spread. ARR crystal placement and map is just fine. I don't think big maps like HW and SB would be that bad if they weren't wide-open areas.

[Edax]

Well I personally enjoyed swimming. I'd also enjoy having mounts swim as well. Now diving was something I disliked. Simply because of the pure emptiness and how the devs handled mount diving and having birds flying in the water.

I never mentioned getting rid of teleporting. We can keep that imo. As long as the the crystals are well-spread. ARR crystal placement and map is just fine. I don't think big maps like HW and SB would be that bad if they weren't wide-open areas.

But my point is that the aethernets undermine your no-flying argument. If people can't fly, they'll teleport. Those maps aren't going to be more well traveled and the mobs are going to still be ignored because most players that fly HAVE NO BUSINESS with those mobs anymore. If people are trying to do their crafting dailies, they aren't going to adventure in the Ruby Sea, or ride across the Steppe, they are going to teleport. Nobody was going to touch those Moogle Dailies if they had to ride through the Coerthas Western Highlands then through the The Dravanian Forelands and halfway through the The Churning Mists. Sure, it would be an adventure, that would get old if done everyday. I already have to commute every workday...

[Laerune]

With Diadem V1 en V2 and Eureka, its obvious that SE is not in sync with its players (atleast western), despite players complaining that we are sick of FATES, SE still likes to add them. We get less dungeons for another Diadem with element system. When you look at the patches since the release of Stormblood, you will notice that we get less content, less dungeons, less glamour outfits, less hairstyles. I remember seeing the 4.1 trailer and wondering why they changed the style, but it makes sense when you notice that less content = less stuff to show in the trailers. Untill we see a big decline of players, I dont think there will be any changes.

FFXIV is a cash cow, one that SE will be milking dry. I am worried for 5.0, I wont be suprised to see even less hairstyles, less glamour (more in Mog Station) and less battle content, while still asking for the same subsciption fee.

I predict for 5.0, we will see:

- New race (something that mixes hyur/miqote and a fan favourite Final Fantasy race)
- 1 new job, SE will use the new race as an excuse for only releasing 1 job.
- All patches will only include 1 dungeon, this is done so they can focus on releasing new content that will be another reskinned Diadem with fluff (after Diadem, SE should have known better.)
- Less glamour, we will see more outfits sold via the Mog Station.
- We used to get 3-4 hairstyles in Heavensward and only 2 hairstyles in Stormblood, with 5.0 we will only get 1 hairstyle for free. SE will sell more hairstyles via Mog Station. This will start with Lyse and Hien, players will be able to buy their hairstyles from the mog station after 4.5 releases.

This might sound salty, but when you compare 2.0 vs 3.0, then compare 3.0 vs 4.0 you will notice a trend when it comes to the Mog Station and content that we get released for our subscription fee.