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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    I feel you need to be reminded of:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(10-30-2013




    What you are doing is provoking fights and causing drama, stop it.

    That quote is before housing was added (5 years ago) and policy change. Deal with it.

    Someone brought up the 45 days and people comment their stance on it? They are not provoking, it's called discussing. I also think 45 is plenty time. By design housing is limited and if you not playing anymore you shouldn't keep your house, people already scream and kick about housing.

    Until we get instanced housing they should keep 45 days policy.
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  2. #242
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    I swear the for/against demo timer debate is FF14 housing's very own version of Godwin's law; the longer a discussion about housing continues, the probability of an argument over the demo timer approaches 1.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I swear the for/against demo timer debate is FF14 housing's very own version of Godwin's law; the longer a discussion about housing continues, the probability of an argument over the demo timer approaches 1.
    This was a discussion about the demo timer to begin with, though? specifically how much it's apparently bugged right now...
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    This was a discussion about the demo timer to begin with, though? specifically how much it's apparently bugged right now...
    There is a big difference between a discussing a possible bug in the housing system and hotly debating if we should have the demo timer or not/how the demo timer should work.
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warghoul570 View Post
    What further makes it questionable is the fact takes it’s been claimed SE knows about it yet we haven’t seen an official statement. Plus all they would really need to do to stop this is to shut off the timer
    There are known cheaters in PVP and PVE (with video evidence) and yet there is no statement here. We had a bug that was reported for quite some time and only when it was blown up on reddit did SE react. We also had people that got no email for house demolishing (I one of those) and seemingly its still buggy.

    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    I don't understand why people think 45 days is too short. 45 days is fine. If you're not using your house in 45 days then you don't really need that house. Pretty cut and dry. When the land is finite, you shouldn't be able to keep your house forever if you're not using it.
    Because its not like someone that played the game for years just wants a simple break? Or maybe you are ill and need time to recover? Or what about all those people that lost their homes in the fire? 45 days are over quite fast. I mean if we see it like that, how about "if you take a break from this game for a few months then lets take away stuff from your characters because if you dont play it all the time you dont need it right?"

    Also if this bug is truly happening right now this means that the timer is not working correctly thus is punishing those that are using their house..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-16-2018 at 06:05 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    If this is in fact true and a bug of some sorts, why no posts about it in the technical help forum?!?
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  7. #247
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    Just poking into the dark, has housing demolition only affected certain data centres? I have seen Primal discuss this, but I'm unsure if I've seen Aether yet, or Chaos for that matter.

    I admit I have been out of the loop and I could be wrong, but Leviathan and Hyperion have been effected, both are Primal worlds as well.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    what about all those people that lost their homes in the fire? 45 days are over quite fast.
    If that happened, my virtual house in a video game would be lowest priority on my list.
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  9. #249
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    Katarh Mest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    If this is in fact true and a bug of some sorts, why no posts about it in the technical help forum?!?
    Per many of the posters on Reddit, some of them are banned from the official forums (due to unrelated issues)and are unable to make posts to report bugs.

    Which.... seems like a huge issue, paying customers should always be able to report bugs. Never really thought about that, but SE really ought to have an online only bug report form instead of asking people to go wholly through the forums. Or a ban is simply a ban from all sections but technical help.

    Anyway, the SE representative who hangs out on Reddit is currently engaged with those folks and trying to help them, so at least they aren't being completely ignored.
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  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    If that happened, my virtual house in a video game would be lowest priority on my list.
    And yet when a disaster happened in Japan they stopped the timer, and in the past the also had stopped it for us too. It might be that the rl goes first in such a case, but that does not stop the feeling that you also just lost a virtual house with many memories behind that. (And depending on the size of it, you also lost a huge amount of time and gil that you sank in this)

    But this thread is more about a bug that happenes when the people still play and visit their house...and if that is really existing than something needs to be done.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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